New 11 hour limit

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Mr Shifter, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. Mr Shifter

    Mr Shifter Active Member

    Just heard today during the PCM. DOT mandatory 11 hour limit on driving.

    This is BIG
  2. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    This rule didn't change. It's not the DOT. It's the FMCSA. What was the PCM if you don't mind?
  3. uber

    uber Guest

    Nationwide, or by state?
  4. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Driving? No package car driver drives 11 hours in a day.
  5. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Package drivers are under the 14 hour window rule.
  6. Mr Shifter

    Mr Shifter Active Member

    Mandatory 30 minutes of meal before you hit your 8th hour. As a package car driver we are to be off the clock before we hit 11 hrs on the clock.

    Nationwide. July 1st in full effect but we are to comply immediately.
  7. Mr Shifter

    Mr Shifter Active Member

    Here we have been forbidden to work after 12 hours and now its 11.
  8. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    That's the same here. The 12 hour limit is UPS's way of keeping you under 60 hours a week.
  9. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    I call BS. Not on you Mr Shifter, but on whoever read that PCM. In packages we are under the 14 hr rule or 60 hrs per week.
  10. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    Same here. Nobody over 12hrs unless you will have missed. Then its 13 hrs. If you still will have missed, goes up to 14. Quite a circus around here when IE gets some off brand crack and cuts our center to the bone.
  11. The Blackadder

    The Blackadder Are you not amused?

    If you UPS didn't want us over 11 they would not give us 12 hour days. They would hire more drivers and buy more package cares.

    The DOT rules have not changed.
  12. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    So then what you're saying is you have no limit but the DOT 14 hour rule.
  13. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    Right. Unless something changed last night because I worked over 12 yesterday
  14. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

    This is not new, and for all practical purposes it only pal lies to feeder drivers. It means you can only DRIVE for 11 hours. You can be on the clock for much more than that, but the actual drive time cannot go over 11 hours, or you violate. The changes are referring to meal periods. If you work 8 hours, you are required to take 30 consecutive minutes before the 8 hours. This applies to all vehicles over 10,001 pounds, which would seem to mean package cars.
  15. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    11 hours puts me at an 8:30 punch out time. 6 is my norm.
  16. ORLY!?!

    ORLY!?! Master Loader

    PCM and the people giving them are always BS.
  17. Is there anything about the ones under 10,000 lbs.?
  18. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Lol, it's hard for a Package driver to understand the 11 hour driving rule.

    11 hours driving refers to your time behind the wheel with the PC running. It does not include any time delivering/picking up while your vehicle is parked. 99.99% of Package car drivers will NEVER make 11 hours driving before their 14 hours is up. Just worry about the 14 hour limit. If you go over 14, you can not drive the next day because you will not have 10 hours off. (We don't change our start time to fix this).

    If your management team is telling you you must be off in 12 (or 11, or any other random number), this would be a UPS rule NOT a DOT/FMCSA rule. Do what the boss says in this case.
  19. 11HourRequest

    11HourRequest Active Member

    ok good. That means i'm still in good shape...
  20. wornoutupser

    wornoutupser Well-Known Member

    I worked over 11 today!