Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Mr Shifter, Jun 24, 2013.
Just heard today during the PCM. DOT mandatory 11 hour limit on driving.
This is BIG
This rule didn't change. It's not the DOT. It's the FMCSA. What was the PCM if you don't mind?
Nationwide, or by state?
Driving? No package car driver drives 11 hours in a day.
Package drivers are under the 14 hour window rule.
Mandatory 30 minutes of meal before you hit your 8th hour. As a package car driver we are to be off the clock before we hit 11 hrs on the clock.
Nationwide. July 1st in full effect but we are to comply immediately.
Here we have been forbidden to work after 12 hours and now its 11.
That's the same here. The 12 hour limit is UPS's way of keeping you under 60 hours a week.
I call BS. Not on you Mr Shifter, but on whoever read that PCM. In packages we are under the 14 hr rule or 60 hrs per week.
Same here. Nobody over 12hrs unless you will have missed. Then its 13 hrs. If you still will have missed, goes up to 14. Quite a circus around here when IE gets some off brand crack and cuts our center to the bone.
If you UPS didn't want us over 11 they would not give us 12 hour days. They would hire more drivers and buy more package cares.
The DOT rules have not changed.
So then what you're saying is you have no limit but the DOT 14 hour rule.
Right. Unless something changed last night because I worked over 12 yesterday
This is not new, and for all practical purposes it only pal lies to feeder drivers. It means you can only DRIVE for 11 hours. You can be on the clock for much more than that, but the actual drive time cannot go over 11 hours, or you violate. The changes are referring to meal periods. If you work 8 hours, you are required to take 30 consecutive minutes before the 8 hours. This applies to all vehicles over 10,001 pounds, which would seem to mean package cars.
11 hours puts me at an 8:30 punch out time. 6 is my norm.
PCM and the people giving them are always BS.
Is there anything about the ones under 10,000 lbs.?
Lol, it's hard for a Package driver to understand the 11 hour driving rule.
11 hours driving refers to your time behind the wheel with the PC running. It does not include any time delivering/picking up while your vehicle is parked. 99.99% of Package car drivers will NEVER make 11 hours driving before their 14 hours is up. Just worry about the 14 hour limit. If you go over 14, you can not drive the next day because you will not have 10 hours off. (We don't change our start time to fix this).
If your management team is telling you you must be off in 12 (or 11, or any other random number), this would be a UPS rule NOT a DOT/FMCSA rule. Do what the boss says in this case.
ok good. That means i'm still in good shape...
I worked over 11 today!
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