So a lesser degree of dishonesty is OK in your book ?
But isn't one more concerned about the greater degree first and foremost?
Just playing some devils advocate with your reply and both remarks are besides the point.
So a lesser degree of dishonesty is OK in your book ?
Putting words in my mouth doesn't work.So a lesser degree of dishonesty is OK in your book ?
Denial, if your continued presence on the company payroll is not unnecessarily driving up the company operating costs , then neither is the guy who are condemning.
Personally I think thief is a strong word to use here, sandbagging != thief. He probably looks at is that he needs to make X to make his ends meet and he'll do what he can to keep that going.
Now I agree management can and should have the ultimate say in this. But a thief? To me this is why managers are there, you have to expect workers doing things like this in any line of work, the manager should be on the ball to understand and then address it appropriately.
The only thing unnecessary here is you.
There are millions and millions of time stretchers out there... who get great yearly reviews!
So a lesser degree of dishonesty is OK in your book ?
Volume is not a defense to error.
That seems to be the idea. It usually takes the form of "What I do is ok since others are worse" or "I'm not really stealing, I'm just going out of my way to take more."
Don't sit there and act stupid about these things and now all of a sudden act as if you and the human race is giving their full 100% all day, all the time. This is where the Internet or public speaking in general gets this holier than though perspective on issues, simple absolute answers in group thinks, which never tells the half of it. But it does sounds good in public gathering claps, then everyone leaves and does next to nothing they just cheered for. I think hypocrisy is the word.
It's a worker stretching hours, which is managements job to uncover, address and take appropriate action that yes can result in firing. To think you can get hours back from them as if they were stolen, not happening.
He said, and I quote, "...somebody is trading their time for money and they do their job at a slower pace to make more money."
Ah, so it's not stealing if you don't get caught. Thanks, got it.
That's just crazy talk!You are 100% correct. The Ground drivers should be employees thus negating the need for contractors.
Isn't it ironic to hear management calling it theft when someone is doing their job at a slower pace than they would like?
What couriers? Who?Isn't it ironic that the issue was couriers who intentionally work slow in order to pad their paychecks? Try and keep up.
Isn't it ironic that the issue was couriers who intentionally work slow in order to pad their paychecks? Try and keep up.
I've never denied there are some couriers who work slowly to pad their paychecks. I'm just not so full of myself that I would call it theft the way you do.
I see salaried people every day on my route sitting on their asses not doing a damn thing who are collecting a paycheck too. This includes FedEx managers. Yes, I know salaried people often work long hours, don't get OT and are on call. How should their productivity be measured?
Hourly employees are expected to be available for work during their scheduled hours. Why should they have to hit a goal based on a full day's work, every day, even if they don't have enough stops to fill their day? If the company wants people to run full speed on a light day they should just send them home with guarantee pay when they are done. They can't do that though because derssome stations don't have PUP routes. So instead of compensating those employees for being available to work the entire length of their shift they expect them to keep their numbers up by taking longer unpaid breaks. So tell me, who is the real thief?
Great post, EMD. Fred expects 110% effort, and then tries to chisel away your pay at every opportunity...late starts, recorders, glacial pay progression etc. If things are slow, he expects you to take an extended break. How about splits? Aren't those theft? It is if you have to be available 12 hours to earn 8 hours of pay. If you're giving 80% effort like most other jobs, you're a criminal at FedEx, not just Joe Average.
I'm just an honest, hard-working employee who wants to be treated fairly. If I try to follow all the policies and jump through the hoops and come up a little bit short on productivity from time to time I don't want to get the FedEx Inquisition treatment.
Most hourly employees earn a living based on how many hours they put in on the job. We aren't earning additional bonuses based on hitting productivity, safety and budget goals. Our earning power is diminished when our employer expects us to be available for 9 hours but only guarantees us 7 hours of pay. Why should the company's time be worth money and not the employee's? If the company can't organize it's schedules to insure employees are compensated for ALL of the time they are scheduled to work then maybe it's time for government to re-write some of the labor laws in favor of hourly workers.
Just curious. If DRA gives you, let's say, 100 stops and says your RTB time is 3:30. You know you can do it all and be back by 2:00. Yet, you slow down a bit because your electric bill is higher than normal and can use the extra hour, and you get back at 2:55, is that stealing time?Isn't it ironic that the issue was couriers who intentionally work slow in order to pad their paychecks? Try and keep up.
Thanks for posting that. I haven't laughed at a post so hard in a while.What couriers? Who?
Prove it.
Need names or it's just hearsay.