next gen package car

PT Car Washer

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We have electric package cars at my hub. I’ve had the misfortune of driving one on a city route. I ran out of juice once it got dark. Even using the handbrake at each stop which triggers a gas powered generator. That’s supposed to get you through you’re route. Only issue is, I’ve dropped the package at the door and halfway back to the truck before the generator starts. And no, I am not a runner gunner so that’s not the problem lol. Nothing like sitting on the side of the road waiting on either a tow truck or the generator to charge enough to drive again.
Another Orion type solution to a problem that does not exist.
 

wilberforce15

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We have electric package cars at my hub. I’ve had the misfortune of driving one on a city route. I ran out of juice once it got dark. Even using the handbrake at each stop which triggers a gas powered generator. That’s supposed to get you through you’re route. Only issue is, I’ve dropped the package at the door and halfway back to the truck before the generator starts. And no, I am not a runner gunner so that’s not the problem lol. Nothing like sitting on the side of the road waiting on either a tow truck or the generator to charge enough to drive again.

A gas-powered generator turned on by the handbrake?

lol.

You can't hate on electric vehicles just because you had the dumbest one ever to exist.

But honestly I just don't believe the story.

If anyone bought something that dumb, it would be UPS, though.
 

JJinVA

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We have electric package cars at my hub. I’ve had the misfortune of driving one on a city route. I ran out of juice once it got dark. Even using the handbrake at each stop which triggers a gas powered generator. That’s supposed to get you through you’re route. Only issue is, I’ve dropped the package at the door and halfway back to the truck before the generator starts. And no, I am not a runner gunner so that’s not the problem lol. Nothing like sitting on the side of the road waiting on either a tow truck or the generator to charge enough to drive again.

Maybe it will encourage them to decrease stops and increase vehicles and drivers.


Naaaaaaaaaaa
 

wilberforce15

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When are we going to run out of lithium?

Never. Lithium batteries were discovered by 40 years ago, and half a dozen better battery types are on the table. It just takes a while to move from research to widespread commercial use. Lithium batteries were discovered in the 70s and first used commercially in the 90s. That's just how it goes.

The best replacement would be a sodium ion solid state battery, which would have infinite raw materials available, be much cheaper, and is energy dense enough you'd start seeing battery powered commercial short haul airliners.
 

ouanling

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Never. Lithium batteries were discovered by 40 years ago, and half a dozen better battery types are on the table. It just takes a while to move from research to widespread commercial use. Lithium batteries were discovered in the 70s and first used commercially in the 90s. That's just how it goes.

The best replacement would be a sodium ion solid state battery, which would have infinite raw materials available, be much cheaper, and is energy dense enough you'd start seeing battery powered commercial short haul airliners.


There's already a company that can more than double tesla's current battery tech with some nano tech. Stock trading private groups are going pretty wild on this one
 

specter208

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How can the range be made to last more than 60 miles with a heavy payload and constant acceleration and deceleration? We have a small Mitsubishi eCanter box truck with only that much range. It also has a Toyota infotainment system installed, lol.
 

wilberforce15

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How can the range be made to last more than 60 miles with a heavy payload and constant acceleration and deceleration? We have a small Mitsubishi eCanter box truck with only that much range. It also has a Toyota infotainment system installed, lol.

This was a great question in 2013.
 

Sheikyrbouti

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But honestly I just don't believe the story.

Sorry you find this hard to believe but it’s true. Once you pull the handbrake, a generator kicks in after 15-20 seconds. Once the sun goes down and you turns on the headlights you are screwed.
Now I have used the same car on a shorter route and was fine as I was done before dark.

If anyone bought something that dumb, it would be UPS, though

enough said right there lol
 

El Correcto

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looks too low to the ground for the country roads I travel. Doesn’t have rear duals, blows outs are a concern even on the rear wheels could cause a roll over. We had a guy in a P500 that rolled over from a rear wheel blowing out.
 

wilberforce15

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Sorry you find this hard to believe but it’s true. Once you pull the handbrake, a generator kicks in after 15-20 seconds. Once the sun goes down and you turns on the headlights you are screwed.
Now I have used the same car on a shorter route and was fine as I was done before dark.



enough said right there lol

That's literally not even an electric vehicle.

It has a gasoline engine in it.

That means it's not an electric vehicle. It just runs an electric motor with a gasoline engine. I'm still 50/50 on believing it.
 

wilberforce15

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looks too low to the ground for the country roads I travel. Doesn’t have rear duals, blows outs are a concern even on the rear wheels could cause a roll over. We had a guy in a P500 that rolled over from a rear wheel blowing out.


Boy, that sounds like a good reason for UPS not to buy the USPS version of the truck.

Oh look, the UPS one has rear dual wheels.

UPS ordered 1,000 last year.
 

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Sheikyrbouti

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Ok so technically it’s officially a hybrid but only drives in electric mode. No noise at all. Like an oversized golf cart lol. Still sucks when the battery dies and you can’t go anywhere while it charges
 

rickyb

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A few problems I see with it already.

It looks really low, I'd be worried about bottoming out driveways.

Doors seem like a safety hazard being touch and automatic. They don't seem to open very wide, less air flow: No side vents etc. If its electric does that mean it'll have some sort of ac? What about winter, I close my door between stops when its sub 25.

Where are the mirrors? This going to use cameras? What about when rain hits? My one camera I have is already useless during rain, or snow.

Speaking of snow, its so low when we get hit with 12 inches of snow, how's that going to work? Get stuck just trying to move.

The bulkhead seems really low, that guy doesn't look tall and he was ducking.

Cool looking pc, but I don't think when its finished its going to look like that at all
this is europe so they have a right to AC whereas US workers dont
 
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