No scans

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by RedRvrDrvr, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. RedRvrDrvr

    RedRvrDrvr New Member

    Anyone else getting write up for “no-scans?” Package is not in car, yet mgmt insist it was because their computer says it was. How are you fighting this?
     
  2. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Fighting them calling it a car?
     
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  3. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    Do they find it on your car?
    Are they auditing your car and physically seeing the package?
     
  4. BlackCat

    BlackCat Active Member

    Very well could be a salted load.

    Tread carefully in your response.
     
  5. eats packages

    eats packages Why won't the door close?

    I scanned it and then immediately spotted a damage/bad address/pending or possible add-cut/did not fit in car left behind/somehow lost it behind the boxline.
     
  6. eats packages

    eats packages Why won't the door close?

    Also if a salt is even remotely noticable (IE the address is out of range despite having a good scan) I will and have intercepted them prior to getting loaded.
    Its a twice yearly occurance. Address is clearly wrong but the scanner says yes. I say no. Is it a salt?
     
  7. RedRvrDrvr

    RedRvrDrvr New Member

    Not physically seeing package. Report just shows that package was scanned and “loaded” into the car. This is happening to all drivers. I haven’t been written up because I haven’t had any missing packages until today. I guess I’ll see what happens tomorrow.
     
  8. RedRvrDrvr

    RedRvrDrvr New Member

    Not salt. They just claim it was loaded because it has a scan. I’ve seen loaders scanning packages and just piling them outside the car. That scan indicates it was “loaded.”
     
  9. Poop Head

    Poop Head rubber bands on the handle

    When you can't find a PKG for a stop, send a message thru the diad. If you find it later, deliver it.
     
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  10. eats packages

    eats packages Why won't the door close?

    I think this is happening at my building too according to a snippet of conversation. I guess I will ask my drivers and kick some ass after the sort.
     
  11. CoffeeStainedUniform

    CoffeeStainedUniform Active Member

    I always send a message on the diad, while still at the stop, telling them I cant find X package. If you find it later, send them that message too.
     
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  12. RedRvrDrvr

    RedRvrDrvr New Member

    I like to think I have common sense. That’s what I always do. Package is not in the car. Car is completely empty. Not delivered anywhere else.
     
  13. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    A few things you could do. Demand they audit your car when you come in.

    Send messages through out the day of missing packages.

    Also file harrassment.
     
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  14. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    Sounds like they are misusing technology for disciplinary purpose.

    The Company acknowledges that there have been problems
    with the utilization of technology in the past. Therefore, at the
    request of the Union’s Joint National Negotiating Committee
    Co-Chair a meeting will be scheduled with the Company Co-Chair
    to discuss any alleged misuse of technology for disciplinary pur-
    poses and what steps are necessary to remedy any misuse.
     
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  15. Poop Head

    Poop Head rubber bands on the handle

    Call the cops
     
  16. RedRvrDrvr

    RedRvrDrvr New Member

    I do. Once I find it, it gets delivered.
     
  17. Poop Head

    Poop Head rubber bands on the handle

    Welllllll. Thennnnnnnnn. Quit worrying about it!
     
  18. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    What I believe is going on is. The company is saying he delivered the package but didn't scan it. Usually a bulk stop.

    That happen here for a while.

    Don't sign anything and make sure to count the packages at a delivery.

    They will usually call the company and confirm if they received the package .
     
  19. iowa boy

    iowa boy Well-Known Member

    Tell them to prove the package was physically put on the car like the computer says it was.
     
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  20. SameRightsForAll

    SameRightsForAll Active Member

    No, the scan itself doesn't indicate the package was loaded. Walking onto the package car with the scanner will log the package(s) as loaded. There should be up to 4 sensors attached to the shelves that detect when you walk onto the car and all pending packages (for that car only) will be removed from the pending scans. There's a very good chance that the package actually was loaded on your car.