Not my Union

[Trucker Clock]

I just don’t like how many people who say they’re voting no because “why not” and “you never vote no on the first offer

1. This isn’t the first offer
And
2. That’s dumb logic because if everyone did that then the union and the company would just never put forth the true contract on the first time

It was probably the 4th or 5th. It was the one that the Union thought was finally a fair offer.

These people can vote no all they want expecting a few more dollars per hour. Ain't gonna happen. Our National Negotiating Committee came up with a TA that they agreed with. If we turn it down, do you really think the Union will have our back?

Try going after Buster without the Union's backing. Good luck.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

This is such insanely short sight stupid logic. But not surprising for you

He said he can't afford to live where he lives.
So he should move, or get a different job. The union just gave him a way to move and keep his job.

What kind of insanely short sighted and stupid person would suggest he should stay there in poverty?

What exactly do you think would happen if every part timer followed that logic?

I do not believe every part timer cannot afford to live on their wage. They're not all homeless and starving. It's insanely short sighted and stupid to suggest such a thing.

 

[Trucker Clock]

He said he can't afford to live where he lives.
So he should move, or get a different job. The union just gave him a way to move and keep his job.

What kind of insanely short sighted and stupid person would suggest he should stay there in poverty?

I do not believe every part timer cannot afford to live on their wage. They're not all homeless and starving. It's insanely short sighted and stupid to suggest such a thing.

Yep.

If a PTer lives in a high cost of living state and needs huge pay raises just to keep food on the table, it's time to move.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Yep.

If a PTer lives in a high cost of living state and needs huge pay raises just to keep food on the table, it's time to move.

…or perhaps it’s time to (gasp) go full time..

 

[Non liberal]

I just don’t like how many people who say they’re voting no because “why not” and “you never vote no on the first offer

1. This isn’t the first offer
And
2. That’s dumb logic because if everyone did that then the union and the company would just never put forth the true contract on the first time

Most of the no votes are going to come from the inadequate FT raises

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Most of the no votes are going to come from the inadequate FT raises

Haven't heard that at all here.

Only thing I'm hearing people being vocal about is that they're happy about the pension increases. Hopefully lots of retirements coming up.

 

[Non liberal]

Haven't heard that at all here.

Only thing I'm hearing people being vocal about is that they're happy about the pension increases. Hopefully lots of retirements coming up.

Not sure why but No not here. That’s what I’m hearing out of my building

 

[Non liberal]

It was probably the 4th or 5th. It was the one that the Union thought was finally a fair offer.

These people can vote no all they want expecting a few more dollars per hour. Ain't gonna happen. Our National Negotiating Committee came up with a TA that they agreed with. If we turn it down, do you really think the Union will have our back?

Try going after Buster without the Union's backing. Good luck.

Gonna be a aw hell NAH!

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Most of the no votes are going to come from the inadequate FT raises

Haven't heard that at all here.

Only thing I'm hearing people being vocal about is that they're happy about the pension increases. Hopefully lots of retirements coming up.

I haven't heard anything about the raises, but as details trickle out, the big storm here has been the reduction/freezing of pension contributions. Come to find out, many areas are taking it balls deep on pension details, and people aren't happy. Most of us aren't interested in selling our futures to give "historic" raises.

 

[HubSnakeWrangler]

The western conference pension is a big WTF here too. Also, this applies to my hub/gateway...I have to take back my initial thought 22.3 would be angry 22.4 "combos" would get elevated to RPCD. There were a lot of 22.4s in my hub who did actually have to work combo. Seems most pt and 22.3 hope it frees up positions for them. I'm on LTD so I am pretty detached from the majority. Oops?...

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

When you’ve chosen to be a elctro mechanic. You learn Nobody gives a flying flip about you. This contract is no different than any other. Just put your big boy pants on and get to work. It’ll pass 51% no matter what. I will be part of the 49%. No difference from any other union I’ve worked for.

 

[Brownsocks]

…or perhaps it’s time to (gasp) go full time..

You get a medal for that one. Many seem to be down right afraid of a full day's work.

 

[Non liberal]

I haven't heard anything about the raises, but as details trickle out, the big storm here has been the reduction/freezing of pension contributions. Come to find out, many areas are taking it balls deep on pension details, and people aren't happy. Most of us aren't interested in selling our futures to give "historic" raises.

Wow, that’s horrible. Thought there were no concessions?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Wow, that’s horrible. Thought there were no concessions?

The Company lets the Union know how much money they are willing to give—-the two then work together to divide that money between wages and H&W. The more money devoted to wages means there is less money for benefits and pensions.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Wow, that’s horrible. Thought there were no concessions?

Of course, there was some concessions. It’s a negotiation. The question is are the acceptable for what we got in return?

 

[eats packages]

Some of you guys are in for a rude awakening on how bad inflation really will get.

Were in for a decade of sky high inflation. Massive recession is coming.

Not even $30/$60 will be enough at the end of this new contract I'd bet.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Some of you guys are in for a rude awakening on how bad inflation really will get.

Were in for a decade of sky high inflation. Massive recession is coming.

Not even $30/$60 will be enough at the end of this new contract I'd bet.

The flip side of that is the economy right now is a house of cards built on a stack of freshly printed money. If it eventually comes crashing down, those of us left standing could be in pretty good shape.

 

[Trucker Clock]

…or perhaps it’s time to (gasp) go full time..

That too. But they want to raise a family on a PT job.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

The flip side of that is the economy right now is a house of cards built on a stack of freshly printed money. If it eventually comes crashing down, those of us left standing could be in pretty good shape.

I've been kicking the damn thing and it won't budge

 

[HarryWarden]

That too. But they want to raise a family on a PT job.

You guys are delusional. You think you could raise a family if you cut your hours in half?