OBrien Sends a Clear Message!

[Babagounj]

Why did they move to a 5 year?

Laziness.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Why did they move to a 5 year?

UPS wanted 8 years.

The threat of a strike every 3 years kept some businesses from using UPS and sticking with FedEx.

A longer contract meant less risk of these businesses’ customers not getting their goods. Better for UPS business.

It is what it is.

 

[Trucker Clock]

A big show? I don't see it being that big.

OK. Put on a show, but not too big of a show so we don’t rock the boat.

If they wanted to send a message to UPS and rock the boat, it would have been planned better and a lot bigger.

But, it was actually planned this way. It was not an over site.

 

[Covemastah]

We all have to look out in this Contract for the (Red Herrings).

22.4’s need to be addressed.. equal pay for equal work. The 4 year progression will probably stay but needs the GWI’s and COLA included.

PVD’s usage will be limited to Peak Season only.

A/C in package cars.. seriously is that the real issue or is it overworking our drivers till they physically injure themselves. There should be weather considerations when we put our drivers at risk, the Company is never going to pay a service failure when a (Act of God) is involved.

Was anyone around when Carey called a one day strike over that 150 pound weight increase.. (February 1994)? Eventually these over 70’s will take it’s toll over a 25 year period, any statistics on just how many of us will be forced to quit or end up with a permanent disability before we are able to collect a decent pension, probably not..

We took part in the 1 day strike up here in Boston local 25

 

[Two Tokes]

We all have to look out in this Contract for the (Red Herrings).

22.4’s need to be addressed.. equal pay for equal work. The 4 year progression will probably stay but needs the GWI’s and COLA included.

PVD’s usage will be limited to Peak Season only.

A/C in package cars.. seriously is that the real issue or is it overworking our drivers till they physically injure themselves. There should be weather considerations when we put our drivers at risk, the Company is never going to pay a service failure when a (Act of God) is involved.

Was anyone around when Carey called a one day strike over that 150 pound weight increase.. (February 1994)? Eventually these over 70’s will take it’s toll over a 25 year period, any statistics on just how many of us will be forced to quit or end up with a permanent disability before we are able to collect a decent pension, probably not..

Would like to see us get SurePost back as well

 

[MyTripisCut]

UPS and the Package Wars

The company offers old-fashioned middle-class jobs and is enjoying record profits. So why is a strike looming?

www.newyorker.com

Good read. If anyone wants to share what we go through with a non UPSer this article will help paint the picture of what’s going on.

 

[DOK]

Let’s have clear language on pvd’s and permit use during peak, would rather have pvd deliver some stops than getting a helper, eliminate 22.4 position all together and 6 punch language that pays time and a half if forced or volunteer to work a 6th punch in any week.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Let’s have clear language on pvd’s and permit use during peak, would rather have pvd deliver some stops than getting a helper, eliminate 22.4 position all together and 6 punch language that pays time and a half if forced or volunteer to work a 6th punch in any week.

It should be double time.

 

[Thebrownblob]

It should be double time.

I like your style

 

[DOK]

It should be double time.

Whoa

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Whoa

That's the only penalty they understand is monetarily

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I like your style

Go big or go home

 

[oldupsman]

That's the only penalty they understand is monetarily

Not sure if that even bothers them anymore. Had an old friend who was in feeders who just
recently retired. Worked labor day last year. Made $104 an hour for the day. Said they could care less.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Not sure if that even bothers them anymore. Had an old friend who was in feeders who just
recently retired. Worked labor day last year. Made $104 an hour for the day. Said they could care less.

Well at least if you are forced the six day you'll get compensated better if they pay the double time

 

[Thebrownblob]

Well at least if you are forced the six day you'll get compensated better if they pay the double time

Might even get @MECH-lift to come in

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Might even get @MECH-lift to come in

Chainsaw money

 

[10:30 resi]

It should be double time.

I proposed double time and a half after 8 worked and triple time after 10. Automatic, don't have to file to get it like 9.5. I don't know anyone who wants to work 10 hours on their scheduled day off. All the company understands is money, let's help them understand we don't want to work a sixth day.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Not exactly what I meant. I don't want the company to be able to pick and choose shifts and types of members and then also have the ability to take it away as they please.

Technically, they've "always" been able to. Pretty sure the contract says all pay rates shall be a minimum. As long as people are getting at least what they are supposed to get, not much can be said if UPS wants to pay others more than what is the minimum. I'm sure many will disagree. And that's cool.

 

[728ups]

That's the only penalty they understand is monetarily

and in true UPS fashion they will Delay,Deny and Deceive as long as possible when it comes to monetary payouts

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

and in true UPS fashion they will Delay,Deny and Deceive as long as possible when it comes to monetary payouts

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