Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[rickyb]

Maybe

US used to have a public tram system which i believe automakers ripped up 100 years ago or so.

 

[rickyb]

 

[rickyb]

cities are designed for cars not for humans

 

[UnionStrong]

US used to have a public tram system which i believe automakers ripped up 100 years ago or so.

That’s absurd.

 

[rickyb]

That’s absurd.

now ur seeing the light

 

[UnionStrong]

now ur seeing the light

Absurd that you think that

 

[rickyb]

Absurd that you think that

Life is

 

[rickyb]

 

[PT Car Washer]

US used to have a public tram system which i believe automakers ripped up 100 years ago or so.

Pulled by horses. Tracks used to go down the middle of my street. Also used to have electric buses that had overhead wires for power. Early 1960's.

 

[quad decade guy]

Plugged in my car before bed last night and woke up to a full charge this morning.

Parked mine and never thought about it....

 

[quad decade guy]

they should charge $0 to use it. it would incentivize people to use something much more efficient that private cars.

No. Make the people who want it....pay for it....leave the rest of us out of it.

 

[Swanson]

US used to have a public tram system which i believe automakers ripped up 100 years ago or so.

LA used to have a good subway system,until companies like ford and firestone sealed it up so you would have to buy cars.

 

[wilberforce15]

Parked mine and never thought about it....

Passed folks at gas stations and never thought about that extra weekly errand.

 

[quad decade guy]

If you'll notice, I haven't said a thing about the environment in this entire thread. I don't care who is a hypocrite. I don't support EVs for any environmental reason whatsoever.

I'm an investor and a car owner. EVs are the biggest win I can think of for either category.

They are superior at the task. They will win. An evil genius who is a once-in-a-century intellect is running the operation. That's my entire point. He will win. That's it. I haven't actually even argued that's a good thing.

But EVs get rid of my trips to the mechanic and the gas station. I don't need regular maintenance, and I don't stop anywhere for fuel. In fact, my house produces all the fuel that I need. That can't be replicated with another technology. Improvements will make it dominate. These are simply facts. You wont' have the choice of whether you adapt.

Why in the world would anyone want an EV unless they were an environmental fanatic?

The price and severe limitations and utility is why they are such a miserable failure(this is settled fact).

Confirming your enthusiasm for EV's is based on an investment return....gosh just loses all credibility.

BTW, I see 100's of cars everyday.....maybe 1 in 1000 is a Tesla. The plain if not ugly design.....drawing my attention.

 

[oldngray]

Why in the world would anyone want an EV unless they were an environmental fanatic?

The price and severe limitations and utility is why they are such a miserable failure(this is settled fact).

Confirming your enthusiasm for EV's is based on an investment return....gosh just loses all credibility.

BTW, I see 100's of cars everyday.....maybe 1 in 1000 is a Tesla. The plain if not ugly design.....drawing my attention.

Hybrids make a lot more sense

 

[quad decade guy]

Passed folks at gas stations and never thought about that extra weekly errand.

Right....what I do weekly....you do(in my scenario) everyday(or so).

 

[quad decade guy]

Hybrids make a lot more sense

Absolutely agree. MOF, I encouraged/helped my daughter to get a Prius. She loves it and going strong after 5 years. My recommendation based purely on mileage....not on any environmental concern. Pure costs.

 

[wilberforce15]

Right....what I do weekly....you do(in my scenario) everyday(or so).

Putting in a plug takes less time and effort than a weekly gas stop. It's more convenient and I never have to track range or capacity. You do.

 

[wilberforce15]

Absolutely agree. MOF, I encouraged/helped my daughter to get a Prius. She loves it and going strong after 5 years. My recommendation based purely on mileage....not on any environmental concern. Pure costs.

It's the worst of both worlds. Expensive. only 50mpg. All the maintenance of gas. The bad performance.

 

[wilberforce15]

Why in the world would anyone want an EV unless they were an environmental fanatic?

The price and severe limitations and utility is why they are such a miserable failure(this is settled fact).

Confirming your enthusiasm for EV's is based on an investment return....gosh just loses all credibility.

BTW, I see 100's of cars everyday.....maybe 1 in 1000 is a Tesla. The plain if not ugly design.....drawing my attention.

Limitations on utility?

It outperforms your gas at everything, including convenience and ease and lack of maintenance.

Crossing the country is the only time you even have a case.