Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

Babagounj

Strength through joy

Yes, I potentially could unlock the doors and start driving the affected Teslas.

No, I cannot intervene with someone driving (other than starting music at max volume or flashing lights) and I also cannot drive these Teslas remotely.

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-- David Colombo (@david_colombo_) January 11, 2022
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra

Yes, I potentially could unlock the doors and start driving the affected Teslas.

No, I cannot intervene with someone driving (other than starting music at max volume or flashing lights) and I also cannot drive these Teslas remotely.

[7/7]
-- David Colombo (@david_colombo_) January 11, 2022
They can be hacked with a Commodore Vic 20
 

Commercial Inside Release

Well-Known Member
I am over cars, so one that requires much less maintenance, and doesn't require a trip to a filthy gas station is fine with me.

However, there is an economic axiom that "once the car goes in the garage, it doesn't come back out until the following day." This may finally kill off the entertainment industry, while obviously decimating the industries that support automotive repair & maintenance. No gas tax collected for roads & bridges, either... It is unlikely there will be much savings by going electric, when all is settled. Certainly, the powers that be will want their pound of flesh, as usual. In my experience, big upheavals like this, always come with a higher pricetag.
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
I am over cars, so one that requires much less maintenance, and doesn't require a trip to a filthy gas station is fine with me.

However, there is an economic axiom that "once the car goes in the garage, it doesn't come back out until the following day." This may finally kill off the entertainment industry, while obviously decimating the industries that support automotive repair & maintenance. No gas tax collected for roads & bridges, either... It is unlikely there will be much savings by going electric, when all is settled. Certainly, the powers that be will want their pound of flesh, as usual. In my experience, big upheavals like this, always come with a higher pricetag.
Axioms were made to be broken.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
I am over cars, so one that requires much less maintenance, and doesn't require a trip to a filthy gas station is fine with me.

However, there is an economic axiom that "once the car goes in the garage, it doesn't come back out until the following day." This may finally kill off the entertainment industry, while obviously decimating the industries that support automotive repair & maintenance. No gas tax collected for roads & bridges, either... It is unlikely there will be much savings by going electric, when all is settled. Certainly, the powers that be will want their pound of flesh, as usual. In my experience, big upheavals like this, always come with a higher pricetag.
User fees will be implemented to replace the reduced gas taxes collected.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
If the EV starts his trip at 80%, which is normal, and you have a quarter tank in a sedan, which is also common, you'll be going to him for warmth.

The average EV doesn't start a trip with a low tank, pretty much ever. Gas cars do. The human behavior element is missing.

(your post may not be using it to argue against EVs, but the blog guy and all such car sites do use it for precisely that purpose)


I can run my truck for 15 minutes, use almost no gas, and stay warm enough for hours at right around freezing temps. Meaning I could easily sit in my truck during the duration of a situation like what happened on I95 and still have enough to get to a station. I'd be interested in seeing the comparison between that and how an EV would do. It's also not very difficult to get someone to bring you a gas can, put a couple gallons in, and be on your way quickly. I doubt you would get that sort of result from an EV. Hydrocarbons are simply a better way to store and use energy. While I think EV and alternative energy sources have their place, I think it would be a mistake to try and eliminate hydrocarbon infrastructure in favor of all electric.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
Elon is a smart but smug guy who clearly knows what he is going. I do not fault him for that; however, as I said above, if not for his personal deep pockets, he would not be where he is today.

Where do you think his deep pockets came from? A lotta millionaires and billionaires have never had the guts to risk their money the way Elon has.

Colonizing Mars is hubris.

I’d tend to agree. No matter how bad Earth gets due to climate change, war, famine, etc, it’s still gonna be a lot better than living on an airless, lifeless planet.

I’d love to be convinced otherwise if anyone has thoughts on it.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Where do you think his deep pockets came from? A lotta millionaires and billionaires have never had the guts to risk their money the way Elon has.



I’d tend to agree. No matter how bad Earth gets due to climate change, war, famine, etc, it’s still gonna be a lot better than living on an airless, lifeless planet.

I’d love to be convinced otherwise if anyone has thoughts on it.
Not in your lifetime
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Where do you think his deep pockets came from? A lotta millionaires and billionaires have never had the guts to risk their money the way Elon has.



I’d tend to agree. No matter how bad Earth gets due to climate change, war, famine, etc, it’s still gonna be a lot better than living on an airless, lifeless planet.

I’d love to be convinced otherwise if anyone has thoughts on it.


I like to think about what it would take to terraform mars. Astrophysicists claim It's in the goldilocks zone, but northern and southern reaches of our planet become nearly uninhabitable for a few months each year due to just being tilted slightly further away from the sun. Another few million miles away seems like it would never be warm enough.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
I like to think about what it would take to terraform mars. Astrophysicists claim It's in the goldilocks zone, but northern and southern reaches of our planet become nearly uninhabitable for a few months each year due to just being tilted slightly further away from the sun. Another few million miles away seems like it would never be warm enough.

I’d think if we had the technology to terraform any planet we’d also have the technology to solve whatever problems we have here on Earth. No need to leave.
 

quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
I can run my truck for 15 minutes, use almost no gas, and stay warm enough for hours at right around freezing temps. Meaning I could easily sit in my truck during the duration of a situation like what happened on I95 and still have enough to get to a station. I'd be interested in seeing the comparison between that and how an EV would do. It's also not very difficult to get someone to bring you a gas can, put a couple gallons in, and be on your way quickly. I doubt you would get that sort of result from an EV. Hydrocarbons are simply a better way to store and use energy. While I think EV and alternative energy sources have their place, I think it would be a mistake to try and eliminate hydrocarbon infrastructure in favor of all electric.
Bravo!
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Where do you think his deep pockets came from? A lotta millionaires and billionaires have never had the guts to risk their money the way Elon has.



I’d tend to agree. No matter how bad Earth gets due to climate change, war, famine, etc, it’s still gonna be a lot better than living on an airless, lifeless planet.

I’d love to be convinced otherwise if anyone has thoughts on it.
airless, lifeless planet....hmmmm
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Existential Comics
@existentialcoms
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Nov 27, 2021
Also, 3 years later and all he's got is pretending to not know the difference between market cap and initial investment? The public invested billions in Telsa, far more than Musk. It wasn't vested into shares because our government is corrupt and likes to give money to the rich.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Existential Comics
@existentialcoms
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Nov 26, 2021
Lmao yesterday a bunch of Elon Musk fans found this tweet again, so they are spending their Thanksgiving weekend defending Elon Musk's feeling from getting hurt by a 3 year old tweet, reminding me that Musk fanboys are literally the most pathetic losers on God's green Earth.
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Existential Comics
@existentialcoms
· May 11, 2018
The funniest thing about libertarians worshipping @elonmusk is that he's basically the villain from Atlas Shrugged. He makes all his money from government subsidies and contracts, and by wildly exaggerating production to pump up stock prices.
 
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