PEE-WEE Buttigieg?

bbsam

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And yet how high was the unemployment rate? You can twist stats all you want, but a lot of people got laid off in the recession. As businesses recovered they brought back people. That's not the same as creating new jobs. Obama said those jobs weren't coming back, referring to jobs that were sent overseas. Trump has hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs created with more factories being built. He did what was necessary to create jobs. Obama held business under his thumb. They didn't build that business, somebody else did, according to Obama.
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Seymour Packages

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fixed it for you. Dont make it up , live within the facts.

It was established Trump had no balls the moment he failed his country when it was his turn to serve. Let's be honest with ourselves.

Riding an economy already on the rebound from one of the largest downturns in US history isn't success. It's being at the right place at the right time. Kind of like how a spoiled kid born with a silver spoon convinced millions of broke ass, uneducated people that somehow they were the same.

Go to any :censored2: town in middle America and check out the closed factories and scores of Chinese owned businesses. Trump has sold out America ever since he pussied out of his turn to serve. Farmers are making less than ever and going under. The V.A. is still in shambles. Poor and middle class kids join the military only to come home mentally and physically damaged to a country that can give a damn about them. Home ownership is down. Mass shooting drills at schools. Record suicide, obesity, and other preventable health problems. This is the norm in our country. Besides the talking points fed to you by your cable news provider, what metric are you using to define the current administration as a success?
 

newfie

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It was established Trump had no balls the moment he failed his country when it was his turn to serve. Let's be honest with ourselves.

Riding an economy already on the rebound from one of the largest downturns in US history isn't success. It's being at the right place at the right time. Kind of like how a spoiled kid born with a silver spoon convinced millions of broke ass, uneducated people that somehow they were the same.

Go to any :censored2: town in middle America and check out the closed factories and scores of Chinese owned businesses. Trump has sold out America ever since he pussied out of his turn to serve. Farmers are making less than ever and going under. The V.A. is still in shambles. Poor and middle class kids join the military only to come home mentally and physically damaged to a country that can give a damn about them. Home ownership is down. Mass shooting drills at schools. Record suicide, obesity, and other preventable health problems. This is the norm in our country. Besides the talking points fed to you by your cable news provider, what metric are you using to define the current administration as a success?

trump has set all time records in employment that others could not accomplish. You cant diminish Hank Aarons home run record by claiming it was a continuation of baseball
 

newfie

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It was established Trump had no balls the moment he failed his country when it was his turn to serve. Let's be honest with ourselves.

I agree we should be honest with ourselves and I hope you find a way to do so. the fact is Trump registered for the draft went in for his military physical and was rejected for those bone spurs. at first it was a 1 y temporary deferment which later became a 4 friend rejection. Trump had the balls to register and go for his physical. Its also logical to see that trump was probably following the path of the time and get his Vietnam ticket stamped to enhance his resume. A common tactic amongst the rich and elite of the time. The difference here between your fairy tale and the truth is that we can see trump actually registered and actually went through the process of qualifying. There is no evidence that he manufactured the bone spur excuse there is evidence that the Armed forces rejected his application based on those bone spurs.

from Snopes the liberally biased fact check site:

Trump received his fourth and final college deferment on 16 January 1968. After graduating from Wharton, he was reclassified 1-A on 9 July 1968. Trump underwent an Armed Forces physical examination (with a result listed only as “DISQ”) on 19 September 1968 and was reclassified 1-Y (qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency) on 15 October 1968.

According to a statement from the Trump campaign, the 1-Y classification stemmed from Trump’s having bone spurs in both heels:

While attending the University of Pennsylvania’s prestigious Wharton School of Finance, Mr. Trump received a minor medical deferment for bone spurs on both heels of his feet. The medical deferment was expected to be short-term and he was therefore entered in the military draft lottery, where he received an extremely high number, 356 out of 365.

The details of that medical exemption remain unclear and controversial, and most draft-related government medical records from the Vietnam era were not preserved.

1972:

Despite the supposedly “short-term” nature of Trump’s disqualifying physical condition, on 17 February 1972 he was reclassified 4-friend (not qualified for military service), presumably due to the abolishment of the 1-Y classification the previous year.

the next dishonest arguement you might try to make is that the Donald recieved such a high draft number due to his money and influence?

these numbers were awarded by birthday as seen in this chart . his birthday being june 14, 1946.

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So the truth is there is no proof that Donald did anymore to avoid the war other then to apply for college deferrmenets and every indication that he did as required and registered and showed up where required . I hope you can handle this honesty . I know it differs from your DNC talking points.
 
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