Preload - Can I fight a setup change?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Pexfam, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Perhaps. Staff Member

    Where, in general, are you?

    U.S.or overseas.
  2. watdaflock?

    watdaflock? Well-Known Member

    Ask one of your buddies, who's stu?
    The steward is supposed to be your friend, explain the safety issue with them. You may also have a group known as the safety committee.
    Good luck with getting anything changed.
  3. Heavy Package

    Heavy Package Active Member

    I looked at the screen shots and that is pretty messed up. I would get with a steward ASAP and review your issue with them. I might also call OSHA as well.

    Either way, I would SLOW DOWN and explain to anybody that I am concerned about injuring myself using the stairs without a handrail and that I do not have clearance into / out of the trailer.
  4. UPSER1987

    UPSER1987 Active Member

    That’s some high quality training there!
  5. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    I just ain't going to help a leech.
    Doesn't want to be in union they can do their own research
  6. UPSER1987

    UPSER1987 Active Member

    But that’s the problem. He’s been here a whole six months. He’s probably got a lame a** BA or lame a** stewards that aren’t looking out for the best interests of its members. He doesn’t even know if he’s in the union. Then everyone is up in arms when part timers don’t vote. Sometimes you gotta give to get...
  7. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    He would know if he was paying dues
  8. UPSER1987

    UPSER1987 Active Member

    I think you’d be surprised how much people DONT know. There’s a guy in here that posts every other day if his hours are being shaved, yet can’t correctly reconcile his hours
  9. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Some areas the union places so little attention the part timers don't even know it exists. Been there, seen that.

    It was very nice.
  10. MarvelousMunata

    MarvelousMunata The Scapegoat With Attitude

    I got written up for stacking once....
    Dude needs to work safe, not "fast"
    Let the sups figure it out
  11. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    You can’t fight the set up change. The management team made a decision to change the lineup, the dispatch, and told you your assignment.

    Walk don’t run. Work safe. Work as directed. If it causes you to stack then you stack. If they tell you not to stack then shut the belt off when you need to. If they tell you to turn it on, tell them you will when your egress is safe. If they tell you not to jog the belt then let packages ride down the belt. If a supervisor turns the belt on when you turn it off then file a grievance and contact osha cause that nonsense is very unsafe.

    I understand you don’t want to make waves. I’m in management. We all want the belt to run and packages to be put away but you have to work safe. Cause they’ll lose it when you report the injury because you’re rushing in unsafe conditions.
  12. eats packages

    eats packages Tetris Master

    Driver's have won local panel decisions related to their preloader (who they have had for years) suddenly getting moved. The decision is made on the loader's "prior past practice" and is brought up when management has a hissy fit when the driver can't nearly work as quickly with the new loader.
  13. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    Calm down chief

    No you haven’t
  14. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    Do you pay dues?
  15. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    It’s the same work but In different equipment. It appears the loader has more space.

    I doubt local level panels will help the OP as a newer loader who is getting larger equipment. This loaders best bet is to play the safety card and force local level management to Adjust.
  16. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Doesn’t matter. Still entitled to Union benefits and representation in RTW states. The problem RTW state folks can run into is weaker representation than folks up north would typically get. Union culture is strong among some members but isn’t widespread. And that can tend to be reflected in a RTW local’s available resources and leadership.
  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    What part of the contract, says that pre-loaders can only be assigned to a

    certain "set" of trucks ?

    That makes no sense. It is just speculation on what "past practice" really is.

    I'd like to see that decision, because it will read different.

    That part;

    I can believe 100%.

    A pre-loader can make or break.... a pkg drivers day. (if they let them)

    Some of them suck.

    But, only from a lack of training and or, un-realistic expectations.

    Most want to do a good job.... right ?
  18. watdaflock?

    watdaflock? Well-Known Member

    tada^ You see places like Detroit who considers themselves a "Union town" not get to 50% participation in voting.

    Union propaganda junk-mail goes directly into the trash can.
    If expecting part-timers to stay after work and listen to why it's so important to vote, make it worth the while! The constant junk-mail method isn't working. This isn't 1980 anymore.

    The union would rather just bitch and complain about the lousy contract and not enough voter participation than actually attempt to change.
    Funniest damn thing I've ever seen. These old farts are so unwilling to change, yet they wonder why the union is dying.
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2019
  19. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    Nah RTW scabs should be ignored.
    Screw them
  20. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Should be. Union has to represent by law.