Proposal Analysis?

[Jackburton]

Does the Union have professionals analyze and report on new proposals before allowing them to enter negotiations?

For example, the Hybrid driver. One would expect the foresight to pick apart everything pro and con, advantages and disadvantages, and potential abuses. Who benefits and who may be negatively affected?

I do not know if the union operates in a business fashion like this? My gut feeling is no.

Yes, but they fired him, his name was O’Brien.

 

[BrownMonk]

Does the Union have professionals analyze and report on new proposals before allowing them to enter negotiations?

For example, the Hybrid driver. One would expect the foresight to pick apart everything pro and con, advantages and disadvantages, and potential abuses. Who benefits and who may be negatively affected?

I do not know if the union operates in a business fashion like this? My gut feeling is no.

Each national negotiations takes negotiators that have worked for the Company, economists to analyze the costs of proposals, IBT lawyers to verify the language, and numerous others. White papers usually don't have the same team.

 

[Wally]

Each national negotiations takes negotiators that have worked for the Company, economists to analyze the costs of proposals, IBT lawyers to verify the language, and numerous others. White papers usually don't have the same team.

I would like to see the data on hybrid drivers. How much might it cost the regular driver in potential work lost? And what other problems such as layoffs, day to day disruptions such as route moves, etc, might it cost?

 

[BrownMonk]

I would like to see the data on hybrid drivers. How much might it cost the regular driver in potential work lost? And what other problems such as layoffs, day to day disruptions such as route moves, etc, might it cost?

I am more interested to see what safeguards are in for this classification. Rumor says they limit the number according to number of drivers, etc.

 

[brownmonster]

I would like to see the data on hybrid drivers. How much might it cost the regular driver in potential work lost? And what other problems such as layoffs, day to day disruptions such as route moves, etc, might it cost?

I see a seemless transition into this new phase. This is UPS after all.

 

[Heavy Package]

Does the Union have professionals analyze and report on new proposals before allowing them to enter negotiations?

Here's the expert Dennis T picked for our side....

 

[Rick Ross]

Here's the expert Dennis T picked for our side....

We needed... Eugene H. Krabs on our side...

 

[Wally]

Has the Union made any statements on their so-called Hybrid Driver position?

We have hybrid drivers now. They are top rate drivers that volunteer to come in early and load, then they deliver. They make 3 or 4 hours overtime. The agreement works great!

I can help but wonder if the leadership's motivation is simply generating more union dues at the expense of higher paid positions?

 

[East coast navy]

I would like to see the data on hybrid drivers. How much might it cost the regular driver in potential work lost? And what other problems such as layoffs, day to day disruptions such as route moves, etc, might it cost?

We will soon

 

[East coast navy]

Has the Union made any statements on their so-called Hybrid Driver position?

We have hybrid drivers now. They are top rate drivers that volunteer to come in early and load, then they deliver. They make 3 or 4 hours overtime. The agreement works great!

I can help but wonder if the leadership's motivation is simply generating more union dues at the expense of higher paid positions?

Not yet

 

[Wally]

We will soon

Not yet

Must be good. No way they would shaft current membership, especially since the company is earning billions in profits.

 

[1989]

The master is fairly irrelevant to a full scale drivers and part timers in my area. For the most part, the only use is for wage increases.

Pension, H & W, transfer, savings, legal, all covered regionally. Part time starting pay covered by minimum wage.

 

[East coast navy]

Must be good. No way they would shaft current membership, especially since the company is earning billions in profits.

I’m not happy about the the 2 tier driver

 

[Pullman Brown]

I would like to see the data on hybrid drivers. How much might it cost the regular driver in potential work lost? And what other problems such as layoffs, day to day disruptions such as route moves, etc, might it cost?

That's too transparent- then the truth would be out!

 

[Pullman Brown]

Has the Union made any statements on their so-called Hybrid Driver position?

We have hybrid drivers now. They are top rate drivers that volunteer to come in early and load, then they deliver. They make 3 or 4 hours overtime. The agreement works great!

I can help but wonder if the leadership's motivation is simply generating more union dues at the expense of higher paid positions?

Yes! Quantity vs. Quality!

 

[Wally]

I’m not happy about the the 2 tier driver

No, it's should be called "second class driver". One to be exploited for sure.

Equal work, equal pay! Frikin' leadership, grow a pair!

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

No, it's should be called "second class driver". One to be exploited for sure.

Equal work, equal pay!

I hope a female or black person gets one of these new jobs then sues the company. Lmfao.

 

[Wally]

I hope a female or black person gets one of these new jobs then sues the company. Lmfao.

The exploitation will not only be put on the Second Class Driver. Regular drivers will suffer consequences as well.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The exploitation will not only be put on the Second Class Driver. Regular drivers will suffer consequences as well.

Sorry Wally. Everyone only saw $4.15 an hour, nothing else.

 

[upsmaster]

The hybrid driver plan was originally proposed by the Teamsters union, not the company, according to leaks from the union negotiating committee. This information has provoked widespread anger among the rank and file. Yesterday’s announcement amounts to a provocation against UPS workers. Lead negotiator Denis T, the bargaining committee, and Teamsters President James P. Hoffa simply ignored the near-unanimous opposition among UPS workers to the creation of a second tier of drivers. Instead, the Teamsters claimed that the new tier was in response to “membership concerns, including Saturday and Sunday delivery, excessive forced overtime [and] time off.”