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Purely Eurocentric origins of mathematics can no longer be upheld. The oldest (35,000 BC) mathematical object was found in Swaziland. The oldest example of arithmetic (6000 BC) was found in Zaire.The 4000 year old, so-called Moscow papyrus, contains geometry, from the Middle Kingdom of Egypt, the consequence of the formula for the volume of a truncated square pyramid. From Herodotus (~450 BC) to Proclus (~400 BC) to Aristotle (~350 BC), Egypt was the cradle of mathematics (astronomy and surveying too). From the earliest, the great Greek mathematicians, including Pythagoras (~500 BC), Thales (~530 BC), and Exodus (the teacher of Aristotle) all learned much of their mathematics from Egypt (Mesopotamia, and possibily India) - even the concept of zero.

It is true that a zero placeholder was not used (or needed) in the Egyptian hieroglyphic or hieratic numerals because these numerals did not have positional value. But the zero concept has many other applications.

Generalizations about the area of a circle or the volume of a truncated square pyramid are most evident in Egyptian mathematics. Checking the correctness of a division by a subsequent multiplication or verifying the solutions of different types of equation by the method of substitution are found from a time before the Greeks "existed." A method, in common use in Europe until the 19th century, for solving linear equations is generally known as the method of false position. This method was in common use to solve practical practical problems such as finding the potency of beer or optimal feed mixtures for cattle and poultry in Egyptian mathematics.

A century before U.S. slavery was ended, slaves and even ordinary African slave traders demonstrated mathematical abilities more sophisticated than the European buyers.

Some 250 years prior to Newton and Liebnitz, a 15th century Indian mathematician, Madhava of Kerala, derived infinite series forand for some trigonometric functions
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Serf

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1) An I.Q. Gap exists among Races.
2) Some Kids are not good at Math.
3) What does anyone need Algebra for anyway?
4) Liberal Arts Degrees are Robbery.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
So basically you just admitted you don't care about her proposals all you care about is that she isn't Trump.

Full blown TDS
I’m curious. I’m interested to here debate on the proposals. You prefer to scream “Socialism!” And run around like a little snowflake because...well because the president tells you to.

Your full blown TDS has melted your brain.
 

newfie

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Well I’m lazy.

Why don’t you explain in depth what she proposes, why she proposes it, and how she sees it getting done.

if you're not motivated enough to google it then its clear you would not be motivated enough to read it

she proposes medicare for all and no middle class tax increase and no plan to pay for it.
Certainly your limited media sources have told you as much?
 

BrownArmy

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If you think I'm being too general, that's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I'm attacking a mindset, more than a group of people. I use the term leftist because it is shorthand, and I figure most people understand what I mean when I use it. I can use the term post-modernist, if that is more suited to your sensibilities.

The driving force behind post-modernism is the belief in Jacques Derrida's deconstructionist philosophy. And moreover on the idea that western civilization is based on phallogocentrism, ie "the patriarchy". The end game is to basically undo everything that has been achieved by western civilization, and recreate civilization based on relativistic morality, to put it all in a very small nutshell. Marxist communism (marxism for short), if you'd like me to be specific, uses the deconstructionist philosophy basically to confuse people who don't know better, and marxism is used by some people to whip the misguided post-modernists (who may not be aware of the end game or even the roots of their world view) into a frenzy in order to sieze control in the turmoil.

I, for one, kinda like western civilization, and don't believe that Derrida's criticisms of it are at all legitimate. I also understand that marxism, and pretty much every other form of communism, has always historically caused massive death, destruction and the elimination of personal liberty. I like personal liberty, and am not a big fan of state sanctioned mass murder, as such, I see it as the least I can do to criticize the result of deconstructionist philosophy wherever it crops up. Speaking the truth is the only way to combat it and bring good into being.

You might be over-thinking it.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
if you're not motivated enough to google it then its clear you would not be motivated enough to read it

she proposes medicare for all and no middle class tax increase and no plan to pay for it.
Certainly your limited media sources have told you as much?
Well that simply doesn’t add up. Do you think that has a chance to pass?

Maybe. Tax cuts that don’t pay for themselves did. Maybe people will just see that as something that benefits them more than the $224 tax cut many of them got from republicans. Fascinating how that works.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
1) An I.Q. Gap exists among Races.
2) Some Kids are not good at Math.
3) What does anyone need Algebra for anyway?
4) Liberal Arts Degrees are Robbery.
That’s the kind of thinking that keeps schools and kids failing.

1). Prove it.
2). Because someone isn’t good at something doesn’t mean they can’t be better at it.
3). For just about anything math and science related beyond 6th grade.
4). Says every high school dropout.
 

vantexan

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Well that simply doesn’t add up. Do you think that has a chance to pass?

Maybe. Tax cuts that don’t pay for themselves did. Maybe people will just see that as something that benefits them more than the $224 tax cut many of them got from republicans. Fascinating how that works.
Average middle class income up $5k under Trump. Over Obama's 8 years it was just over $1000. Under Bush $400.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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I’m curious. I’m interested to here debate on the proposals. You prefer to scream “Socialism!” And run around like a little snowflake because...well because the president tells you to.
K so you refuse to read about them.
Yet you want to debate them.
And you know they're not socialist.
Lol.

They are socialist proposals.
FFS, have some self respect and just own it.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
K so you refuse to read about them.
Yet you want to debate them.
And you know they're not socialist.
Lol.

They are socialist proposals.
FFS, have some self respect and just own it.
No. I want to see the debate between those who know something about the topics. I admit I don’t know and you prove over and over that you do not nor do you care to learn.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
They had a new pay plan come in as Trump became president so their income is up over what it was. Trump cutting corporate taxes helped make that happen.
Lol. No. You know Fedex better than that. They only give $X because they are in the process of taking $X + 10.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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No. I want to see the debate between those who know something about the topics. I admit I don’t know and you prove over and over that you do not nor do you care to learn.
We've talked about it already you just don't want to acknowledge the Democrats' socialist agenda because you know it's going to lose the election for them.
 
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