Punished for growing business.

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Brownslave688, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

  2. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Deplorable.

    Maybe Wall Street saw what a failure ORION was and now doesn't trust UPS to spend money at all lol.
     
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  3. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Also that's $1 per share by 2020.

    So while the company makes 10% more per year. They also raise dividends about 10% per year. Volume is skyrocketing. Unemployment is record low. Average national wage increases are 3%.

    But hey guys we should be stoked about that 2% raise the union negotiated. All while giving the company a permantly lower paid driver.
     
  4. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Did it fail? Miles allegedly are down.
     
  5. llamainmypocket

    llamainmypocket Active Member

    Drivers at top rate make plenty. You guys should be happy to maintain your wages. The pay we need to increase is part time and increase the number of 22.3 jobs.
     
  6. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Maintaining wages is a 3% raise. Keep up with inflation. I think that's all anyone really wants.
     
  7. llamainmypocket

    llamainmypocket Active Member

    Yeah, that's what I meant. Inflation adjusted.
     
  8. Brownsocks

    Brownsocks Just a dog

    Let's see right now I'm spending extra time cherry picking odds and evens because Orion wants me to hopscotch across a busy 4 lane street. Might lower miles driven but if you follow it on my route you would end up getting in at midnight or get t boned.
     
  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I was 2.5 hours over on a route I'm usually .5-1 hour over on. Management was like what the hell happened.



    Takes a lot of time to wait and turn left across 4 lanes of traffic for every stop.
     
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  10. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    And the company make more than plenty, record profits. Show us the money!
     
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  11. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Deplorable.

    Paid days are allegedly way up.
     
  12. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    And we all bitched about OT and the union gifted the company full time drivers for a $6 an hour cut in pay to reduce OT.


    Did it fail?
     
  13. wooferjay

    wooferjay Active Member

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    Mileage may be down, but how much more money does ups actually pay to drivers for it taking much longer to do the same amount of work? My overtime has gone up as a result of them taking RDO away.
     
  14. upsman88

    upsman88 New Member

    Drivers at top rate make plenty. You guys should be happy to maintain your wages. The pay we need to increase is part time and increase the number of 22.3 jobs

    This will be the death of ups people like you that have this mindset that drivers are so over paid I don’t know of but two loaders in my hub that deserve anything more then they are making now bunch of whinny cry babies that can’t do there job but wanna tell me there set was just blown out that’s why my shelf’s are empty but everything’s on the floor? Give me a break overpaid my :censored2:
     
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  15. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    Actually PT wages need to be reduced.
    Also PT jobs should be eliminated.
    PT jobs should never have been allowed at UPS.
     
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  16. eats packages

    eats packages Anyone ever hear about "load charts"

    Don't be so negative, there's at least three preloaders that deserve a raise.

    Real talk here, at least %25 of the people I work with are willingly doing stupid stuff to work as directed.
    As a good example, here are all of the things my supervisor has told me to do since I've been hired last year.
    1. Work faster, duh
    2. Do not write addresses / Customer names / Business names on boxes
    3. Do not leave out large bulk stops, especially ones that are delivered early in the day. Instead load them right away and blow out everything else lol.
    4. Do not load floor stops (rdl, rdr, etc) on the shelf.
    5. Do not snake the load (literally in our methods booklet, goes with #5)
    5. Stop rearranging the load.
    And mind these are things my drivers tell me to do specifically or do not mind happening.

    Which of those 5 things actually is productive geezus.
    The preload assist system is a moronic system for moronic dispatchers to play with.
    You guys only now know now with forced orion what it is like for all the numbers to get moved around like a bunch of musical chairs.
     
  17. Poop Head

    Poop Head Poop is funny

  18. Mustacheyouaquestion

    Mustacheyouaquestion 60 minute lunch

    Maintaining my current rate of pay for the next 5 years means i take a pay cut. Don't be a fool. Yes part timers deserve more, maybe you should show up to monthly meetings and then you could have had a voice. Just because you were late to the party does not mean you can through my job under the bus. Sincerely yours "bet you didn't even vote for the strike authorization"
     
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  19. BadIdeaGuy

    BadIdeaGuy Active Member

    So it is your opinion that all but two loaders in your hub are worthless.
    The exact same problem as part timers saying you are overpaid.
    Take a group of hard working people, and decide that you think they are just a bunch of whining do nothings.

    You aren't a good union brother, bud.

    Agree with the last two, @Maple Grove MN Driver. But reducing part timer wages sounds like it plays right into the company's hand.

    Until the company commits to absolutely removing all part time jobs, I'm dead against that.
    Also, how do you lower it???
    Lots of places, it isn't much higher than minimum wage.

    Explain. They are talking about keeping up with inflation, not staying perfectly still.
    We are a brotherhood.
    Y'all sold part timers out. (I'll assume just by accidental apathy, not malice.)
    You threw our jobs under the bus.
    We aren't even suggesting payback.
    We just want you to help us get back on our feet.
     
  20. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member