The guys I knew that went to UPS were only getting a route 1-2 days a week. They came back because my job was actually full time. This isn’t counting the years people often have to spend as package handlers before getting a chance to drive at UPS. Don’t pretend like the first year driving at UPS is a great job.
That’s why I said the young stupid kids don’t care about benefits. Health benefits for the average 20 something are worthless, they won’t use them.
He’s got to justify to himself and his family why he such a poor employer. He’s fooling no one here.
Waiting to go driving hasn’t been a thing for quite a while. Most people don’t even have to wait more than a couple months.. if the people working for you quit because they weren’t getting hours. It’s because they were too stupid to know they’re guaranteed hours which would stand to reason why they came back to work for you..
Those aren't "first-year drivers" dip
, they're pt cover drivers, or temporary cover drivers. If you want to compare apples to apples, a first-year FT driver easily makes over $50k a year plus benefits. Those cover drivers make 70%+ of top rate, which is around $29/hr minimum and lock into that rate work they go FT, so it's even more for them when they are first-year drivers. 
That, and the contractor model.
So people come off the street into full time driver positions now? That’s standard? That doesn’t track with anything around here that I’ve ever heard. Or are you just exaggerating to pretend to prove some point? Are we all to believe first year hires are treated well at UPS?Those aren't "first-year drivers" dip
Apples to apples.
Ups hires lots of people off the street we even have a rule for it. It’s different in different places.
Lol, I'm not interested in your shell game.
I said first year drivers have a hard time at UPS. You made a personal attack and claimed the drivers in their first year I spoke about weren’t first year drivers and were some other semantic difference. Sorry I made you look foolish. It’s good that you are running away from your bad argument.
Because we are all in league with that moronic Indian Raj and Uncle Fat Freddy.
You compared your drivers to UPS first-year drivers, then changed your comparative group when you realized those are UPS PTers, and that you have no idea what you're talking about. It's okay, you've been wrong before.
They were drivers in their first year at UPS. It would be impossible for me to be more correct.
Impressive, don't know that I've ever seen anyone in so far over their head in a pool so shallow. Well done.
