Re-Classifying Couriers as Non-DOT

[bbsam]

I have drivers who regularly complain about 9 hours. 14 hour day are not going to fly well let alone anything above that number should the restriction be lifted.

 

[soc151]

To be fair to us ground drivers, not getting paid any OT gets mighty demoralizing over time.

 

[BigTex61]

Is that all ground drivers? No OT even after 40 hours?

 

[hondo]

Is that all ground drivers? No OT even after 40 hours?

Under the federal overtime law, truck drivers are exempted from the OT after 40. So unless an individual state has them covered (maybe California?), they're not entitled to it legally; I know in Illinois they're not.

 

[bbsam]

Under the federal overtime law, truck drivers are exempted from the OT after 40. So unless an individual state has them covered (maybe California?), they're not entitled to it legally; I know in Illinois they're not.

When you look at laws and regulations from federal to state to DOT and take them as a whole, it's easy to come to the conclusion that the truck driver is not looked upon with much respect at all.

 

[robdabanks]

Is that all ground drivers? No OT even after 40 hours?

They need to start paying them better first! Then worry about ot

 

[MassWineGuy]

At our station my understanding is that anything over eight hours a day is OT.

 

[Operational needs]

At our station my understanding is that anything over eight hours a day is OT.

That is correct.

 

[MrFedEx]

Is that all ground drivers? No OT even after 40 hours?

Most Ground drivers don't get OT. In my area, the ISP pays a flat salary, regardless of hours worked. The rest work straight time, again, regardless of actual hours worked. Scam.

 

[Garciawork]

We guarantee a daily pay, but they are still hourly, and if there reg, OT, and DT goes over the guarantee based on the hourly wage, they get the extra for that day.

 

[BigTex61]

Most Ground drivers don't get OT. In my area, the ISP pays a flat salary, regardless of hours worked. The rest work straight time, again, regardless of actual hours worked. Scam.

Wow, didn't realize that. No wonder most the ground drives I know are always pissed.

 

[SmithBarney]

Very interesting discussion, I'm trying to determine how FDX is going to circumvent the laws as I currently understand them.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/faq/am-i-r...only-operate-cmv-my-home-state-intrastate-com

Am I required to have a medical certificate if I only operate a CMV in my home State (intrastate commerce)?

Intrastate drivers are subject to the physical qualification regulations of their States. All 50 States have adapted their regulations based on some of the Federal requirements. Many states grant waivers for certain medical conditions.
NOTE: FedEx, UPS and DHL drivers usually do not leave the state but are subject to interstate regulations.

And interstate regulations require DOT medical cards... ? no?

 

[vantexan]

Very interesting discussion, I'm trying to determine how FDX is going to circumvent the laws as I currently understand them.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/faq/am-i-r...only-operate-cmv-my-home-state-intrastate-com


And interstate regulations require DOT medical cards... ? no?

Dated April 1, 2014. Possibly new exception has been granted? Still no word as to when this is supposed to happen.

 

[upschuck]

Very interesting discussion, I'm trying to determine how FDX is going to circumvent the laws as I currently understand them.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/faq/am-i-r...only-operate-cmv-my-home-state-intrastate-com


And interstate regulations require DOT medical cards... ? no?

Believe it or not, a vehicle rated at 10,000 lbs is not considered a commercial vehicle.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Believe it or not, a vehicle rated at 10,000 lbs is not considered a commercial vehicle.

This is why drivers with a certain type of diabetes (2?) can still work here.

 

[upschuck]

This is why drivers with a certain type of diabetes (2?) can still work here.

They can get a federal waiver and drive any truck if insulin dependent, got one in my building that drives a larger PC. However, if no waiver, then they can drive those vehicles(10,000lbs).

 

[fedupforsure]

the 14 and 10 hour rule still applies but the 72 hr in a rolling 7 days does not, say hello to Saturdays and sundays. glad I am retiring before peek

 

[vantexan]

the 14 and 10 hour rule still applies but the 72 hr in a rolling 7 days does not, say hello to Saturdays and sundays. glad I am retiring before peek

But are we going to be classified as non-DOT or is this a rumor?

 

[MassWineGuy]

I watched the monthly Frontline the other day and the veep mentioned declassifying some DOT drivers. I want to remain DOT.

 

[vantexan]

I watched the monthly Frontline the other day and the veep mentioned declassifying some DOT drivers. I want to remain DOT.

OK, I'm a domicile, don't get to see Frontline. Can you elaborate? And what's the advantage of remaining DOT?