Go clean your
. I think it's time.
Saturday or Sunday hmm
- Thread starter Dweezel
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. I think it's time.Oh yea you got me. I fell for the oldest trick in the book the troll.
Thanks, I think. Just answering a question and not looking for anyone kissing my rear. Nothing "in it" for me. I wish UPS didn't feel the need for a full operation on Friday after Thanksgiving, but language is present to allow it. It appears to have helped keep the system moving.
I take Bo's comments as a guy who appreciates other guys who actually get involved and work toward solutions to the constant barrage of issues UPS seems to throw at their employees every day.
Anyone can post answers (right or wrong) on BC. But only a few can earn the trust of their members and get elected to represent and solve those issues.
Hope you had a great Christmas, and as a good Irishman I hope you enjoy Saint Stephens Day.
Irishman Collins
Well-Known Member
The day of the wren, interesting you should mention such a holiday? Anyway, as far as "Bo" goes. He just irritates me is all. He really, in my opinion never really has anything interesting to say unless he is trying new and creative ways to kiss rear. As far as your comments and "Bo's comments about being "involved", I am involved and have always been. I love my Union and I am ashamed of it now.I along with many others will work tirelessly to create effective change. At this point I don't even care if it is a T.D.U. slate or not. In my opinion anything is better than our current situation and administration. As a good "Irishman" I expect a good fight from my foes and respect them for standing up for what they believe in, no matter how misguided he or she may be. I appreciate your holiday sentiments and your knowledge of Irish holidays and am glad that we can exchange verbal blows and walk out of the ring with some respect for the other.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
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BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Funny thing;
There is language going all the way back to 1968.... Where the company can
require an employee to work on "named" Holidays. And they pay the premium for it.
I have said this before.
From the moment.... the company signs the contract, they are looking for ways to evade it.
Their (redundant) tactic, is to try and gain things through the Panel system and arbitration....
that they couldn't get, in contract negotiations.
-Bug-
oldngray
nowhere special
Funny thing;
There is language going all the way back to 1968.... Where the company can
require an employee to work on "named" Holidays. And they pay the premium for it.
I have said this before.
From the moment.... the company signs the contract, they are looking for ways to evade it.
Their (redundant) tactic, is to try and gain things through the Panel system and arbitration....
that they couldn't get, in contract negotiations.
-Bug-
The company will always try to get fuzzy language in the contact when ever possible to give them wiggle to try to find ways around issues.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Sometimes.... ambiguous language is a benefit.
Do you really want a defined (contractual) attendance policy?
-Bug-
oldngray
nowhere special
Some flexibility is absolutely necessary but this isn't the old UPS that was trying to be fair. And "past practice" for gray areas is widely abused. If UPS gets away with bending the contract once they can use that as a precedent to continue doing so.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Yes.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
The answer is NO.
Management people, would like the "flood gates" to open.
Not gonna happen.
-Bug-
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
The answer is YES.
How hard is it to show up to work every day on time and ready to go?
What other job allows for no call/no shows or 3 occurrences?
How hard is it to show up to work every day on time and ready to go?
What other job allows for no call/no shows or 3 occurrences?
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Being from a small center, you have a limited view.
The "turnover" rate.... averages 85%.... in metropolitan areas.
-Bug-
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Limited view or not, I reject your premise that we need to coddle our employees. Show up or we will find someone who will.
PT Car Washer
Banned
For $10/hr and no benefits HR is a revolving door. I am amazed HR can find so many suckers. Newbies learn real quick what the job is about and leave after a couple days or weeks.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Irishman Collins
Well-Known Member
Omg, where is a attendance policy mentioned in the contract and I am not talking 3 day, no call, no show language? The only way that a defined attendance poicy would be put in the contract would be if our Union agreed to it. I am sure our Union leaders would never agree to doing that to their members? Oh, wait a minute, I was daydreaming about good strong Union leadership. Hell, why wouldn't our current leadership agree to a defined attendance policy? They already have agreed to a 4 year progression for part timers who in some cases wait 10 years to become a driver. Only to have to wait 4 more years for top pay. Oh and let's not forget putting over half of its membership into a lesser health care plan. So with all that said why not a defined attendance policy? Please wake up Teamsters and realize if we don't elect new leadership our rights will quickly become equal to the so called weaker Unions!
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BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Whoa.... there cowboy !
Won't happen.
Good luck with that.
And finding future employees.... that would rather work at McDonalds.
(No heavy lifting involved)
-Bug-
