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I didn't know that. They haven't said anything to is on this flavor of the week deal yet.
Good to know.
Sounding Horn and Warning Letters and the Law
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Good to know.
Faceplanted
Well-Known Member
Our Stewart was nice enough to text us all the exact statute. If it's ok to break that law, it must be ok to speed and roll through stop signs as well.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
I was hit for this last year, apparently my horn use wasn't showing up enough in my telematics sports statistics. I cited state law and that using the horn was not intended for soliciting customers, but to warn pedestrians and motorists. Yes I did argue and yes, the on-car continued to try to sell the UPS propaganda about horn use every stop no matter what. Did not hear about horn use again, though.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
That would be a good story if the horn was monitored by telematics. But it isn't.
oldngray
nowhere special
... yet.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
"apparently"...you missed the operative word. If it was one of the numbnuts following me in a personal vehicle, or etc., the story doesn't change.
Overpaid Union Thug
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Wow. It's mid February and the BS nitpicking is just not starting? LOL. They must have had a rough January in Atlanta.
2 hrs over allowed
VOTE NO
Sleeve you don't know that frigid and upsguy72 know everything?
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
It's Steward
Just so ya know
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Calling bs on a story is knowing everything? Well okay then.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
their sage advice and wisdom could save our jobs some day, we're blessed
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Beeping the horn at a residential address makes sense. Yes, there are exceptions, but for the most part it works as intended.
Beeping the horn at a commercial address does not.
Beeping the horn at a commercial address does not.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
Half the time my horn doesn't work and only with the steering wheel in a certain position.
a911scanner
Well-Known Member
I understand the concept, but feel like a fool the 2-7 times a day that I don't have the package for the address when I do honk the horn.
Furthermore, how is it that the sups can find out if you honked the horn when they come to investigate an incident if it isn't on telematics?
Furthermore, how is it that the sups can find out if you honked the horn when they come to investigate an incident if it isn't on telematics?
Beeping your horn for a delivery makes no sense at all....sorry. Maybe the customer doesn't want any one on one time with the driver..this may let then think ups requires something from them.
Set the box down and ring and/or knock. Blowing the horn is just another wasted method are quite frankly is annoying.
Beeping your horn to get someone's attention in their car near you does make sense.
Packmule
Well-Known Member
You are correct about the law. Problem is, no law enforcement officer is going to care until someone ( like a day sleeper) calls in a complaint. Then you will probably get a warning from the cops. Might be enough to get your local management to back off, but if not subsequent complaints can net you a heafty fine and eventually jail time.
Falls under disturbing the peace laws if I remember right.
Got this information from a relative who is a corporal with our local sheriff department.
Argued this point with my managers, but to date no customer has ever complained to UPS much les law enforcement.
Audi Junkie
New Member
I ran some new UPS guy out of here who was barreling in the driveway laying on the horn like it's the end of the world. My home is in a state forest at least a mile from any others. Driveway is about 20ft from my bedroom window, open because of the heat.
I think the guy is some kind of idiot, because instead of honoring my simple request, he got mouthy, called me an
and sped off....blowing the horn. So, you tell me if that sounds like a normal healthy employee. He's on my property mouthing off? Let me tell you, in PA we do not need the police for summary criminal offences, I could file privately for disorderly conduct, harassment for the language and harassment for blowing the horn after I asked him not to.
For the drivers here who feel embarrassed, yeah...tell your sups how suddenly the public is starting to hate you. My other delivery persons are great, FedEx guy hangs out 15-20 minutes sometimes. Not only does the horn annoy regular people, my dogs go ape when ordinarily they would never know if delivery is coming....with their bags of food.
I couldn't think of a less endearing activity a professional driver could engage in. And oh, back at the hub in Pittston PA, Leslie sounds like a real bitch-slave to the corporate logo. Not one bean or brain power, just argument for the sake of argument. She's pretty sensitive too, hung up on me because of my language....lol, all I did was tell the story of what HER driver said.
I am halfway tempted to file a case under UPS Guy, then get a court subpoena for UPS to get the name and go from there. To the other drivers who use their common sense, good for you, that's what you get paid to do, not to sow chaos for mindless rule-orgy compliance.
I also guarantee you my UPS guy would not have the balls to say anything to my face, he waited until his truck was running, lol. Supposedly I won't get getting service here now, which is FINE with me. Because UPS can't control employee criminal behaviour, sure....I'll retrieve my own packages.
I think the guy is some kind of idiot, because instead of honoring my simple request, he got mouthy, called me an
and sped off....blowing the horn. So, you tell me if that sounds like a normal healthy employee. He's on my property mouthing off? Let me tell you, in PA we do not need the police for summary criminal offences, I could file privately for disorderly conduct, harassment for the language and harassment for blowing the horn after I asked him not to.For the drivers here who feel embarrassed, yeah...tell your sups how suddenly the public is starting to hate you. My other delivery persons are great, FedEx guy hangs out 15-20 minutes sometimes. Not only does the horn annoy regular people, my dogs go ape
when ordinarily they would never know if delivery is coming....with their bags of food. I couldn't think of a less endearing activity a professional driver could engage in. And oh, back at the hub in Pittston PA, Leslie sounds like a real bitch-slave to the corporate logo. Not one bean or brain power, just argument for the sake of argument. She's pretty sensitive too, hung up on me because of my language....lol, all I did was tell the story of what HER driver said.
I am halfway tempted to file a case under UPS Guy, then get a court subpoena for UPS to get the name and go from there. To the other drivers who use their common sense, good for you, that's what you get paid to do, not to sow chaos for mindless rule-orgy compliance.
I also guarantee you my UPS guy would not have the balls to say anything to my face, he waited until his truck was running, lol. Supposedly I won't get getting service here now, which is FINE with me. Because UPS can't control employee criminal behaviour, sure....I'll retrieve my own packages.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You sound like a complete a hole. I would have also hung up on you.
