The Driver
I drive.
Where are yours ?
Are you afraid of management ?
-Bug-
When it becomes customary to target us because they have the flexibility to do so, believe me, they’ll us.
Where are yours ?
Are you afraid of management ?
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I care about not working weekends and my pension too.
1. Seniority should prevail when OT is worked. A decent supplement should cover this protection.1. Potential to take work from me and my brothers with cheaper labor.
2. In time will experience growing resentment from the lower paid combo drivers, destroying our solidarity.
3. Will drag down wages and general compensation in the future for drivers in general.
4. Allowing UPS to take an inch will result in them taking a mile in the future.
5. The target on my back will grow. Management will be pushed by upper management to weed out higher paid existing drivers because they have more flexibility with the 22.4s. Just find a way to escalate discipline with a current driver leading to termination, use 22.4s to fill in the gap while they hire a new RPCD or move a 22.4 into that slot as an new RPCD.
Make no mistake, this 22.4 language is a chink in our armor!
Does the 22.4 job directly effect you?
They would be hiring more drivers.
Maybe you haven't read the language.... or can comprehend it.
Well, you can't work 7 days a week and would be in the minority.
So while I might admire the sentiment, it's false bravado stating that.
My loyalty is with the active participating members.
Not with people that are afraid of their own shadows, and won't even file a grievance.
You know who they are.....
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1. Seniority should prevail when OT is worked. A decent supplement should cover this protection.
2. Crystal Ball that shows the future needed.
3. Crystal Ball that shows the future needed.
4. Crystal Ball that shows the future needed.
5. Crystal Ball that shows the future needed.
Do you have a crystal ball of this type?
Point 1 is really your only valid point.
I care about my future and the future of my brothers. I still have 21 years to go and I don't want to see a second class of fulltime driver. It's just a sellout!
Never have been fine with it. But wouldn't complain about my $31/hr either.Also everybody is fine with 22.3 employees making a lower rate but not 22.4. Why? we are a democratic union not a communist one. USSR proved how effective it is to pay everyone the same no matter what the occupation.
Hoffa and Company have to go. Too old, too weak, and spineless.
So you are ok with garbage like hybrid drivers?You realize (of course) there are 18 different divisions within the Teamsters.
UPS only being one.
What was the IBT President doing yesterday ?
Rallying in support of pension reform.
Teamsters, Miners, Bakery Unions Join Together to Demand Pension Reform
Not afraid to interact with all Union members.... regardless of their Union affiliation.
Where is FZ ?
This was a big deal. No opposition loudmouths ?
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@DELACROIX, does the 22.4 job/language directly effect you?
This is where you're wrong. It's not a crystal ball that is needed. YOU need a history book. His points all represent what has happened in the past when you give UPS an opening.1. Seniority should prevail when OT is worked. A decent supplement should cover this protection.
2. Crystal Ball that shows the future needed.
3. Crystal Ball that shows the future needed.
4. Crystal Ball that shows the future needed.
5. Crystal Ball that shows the future needed.
Do you have a crystal ball of this type?
Point 1 is really your only valid point.
An overwhelming majority of Pkg car drivers don't want the overtime and don't want
to work weekends. The 22.4 language will solve that.
"Last Best Final Offer", until the next offer after that one. Past experience, "97".Saying that why would anybody in their right mine would vote "yes" on the first contract when we know that it will better on the second, third, fourth and five time. One of the first rules of negotiations is to never take the first offer, if this one needs more work send it back. It is that simple.