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vantexan

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trump continued the bankruptcy of america by maintaining the empire. he was terribly corrupt. yea he passed tax cuts for the rich. dont think he did too good on the trade war with china.
He did just fine on the trade war. He passed tax cuts that impacted just about everyone positively. Tax cuts for the wealthy means they have more to invest. That spurs growth.
 

rickyb

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I’m quite surprised you like Ron Paul, he was about liberty, you don’t espouse much of that. You want the “elite” to take care of everything for you. When you ask them to do that they will “take care of you” all right just not the way you think.
no no i want workers to control their jobs. thats a revolution and the opposite. i want way more democracy.
 

rickyb

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He did just fine on the trade war. He passed tax cuts that impacted just about everyone positively. Tax cuts for the wealthy means they have more to invest. That spurs growth.
the wealthy dont invest quite often, they do stock buybacks which are unproductive and park the money over seas
 

Thebrownblob

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no no i want workers to control their jobs. thats a revolution and the opposite. i want way more democracy.
So by democracy you mean communism? Because pure democracy is just mob rule. Where the many control the few, and very little liberty can happen in that instance.
 

vantexan

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Dude trump is a business owner. Anybody that is in charge of a business is going to absolutely hate a union. Trump can’t stand unions. Trump being this savior is the most bizarre thing to me.
So what? Business provides the jobs. We needed jobs after years of stagflation. Of course business owners hate unions. They want to keep as much as possible. Taxing and regulating them to death doesn't make it better for unions. Makes it that much more difficult to meet union demands.
 

rickyb

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So by democracy you mean communism? Because pure democracy is just mob rule. Where the many control the few, and very little liberty can happen in that instance.
i agree mob rule is bad, and im not familiar with the solution to it.

what we currently have economically is free choice of economic dictatorship if you want to b an employee.

democracy limited to voting once every 2 years, and its totally corrupted by the economic system. so really its another kind of dictatorship.
 

rickyb

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So what? Business provides the jobs. We needed jobs after years of stagflation. Of course business owners hate unions. They want to keep as much as possible. Taxing and regulating them to death doesn't make it better for unions. Makes it that much more difficult to meet union demands.
actually america more prosperous when you have 90% top marginal tax rate and high corporate taxes.
 

PT 4 Life

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So what? Business provides the jobs. We needed jobs after years of stagflation. Of course business owners hate unions. They want to keep as much as possible. Taxing and regulating them to death doesn't make it better for unions. Makes it that much more difficult to meet union demands.

I’m just saying someone like trump is not for the union. I’m 100 percent for unions, but I’ll admit they have their faults. Not with anti union BS, especially here at ups.
 

rickyb

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Growing your business is investing in your business. Can't do it if all your money is going to taxes and regulations.
you need workers to buy your product. workers cant buy if theyre in debt because govt doesnt make education, and healthcare, and housing affordable.
 
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