Teamsters union blackmails UPS workers: Approve contract or your wages will be cut

[Old Man Jingles]

Are they not threatening the members to vote yes?

They are advising.

 

[mikejonesjr]

They are advising.

Advising to vote yes or take a pay cut? Lol. Sounds more like a threat but ok

 

[KOG72]

Teamsters union blackmails UPS workers: Approve contract or your wages will be cut


The Teamsters Union is seeking to blackmail UPS workers into voting for its sellout contract proposal by threatening that a “no” vote will result in an even worse offer.

A UPS worker provided the World Socialist Web Site with a letter sent out to all New York state UPS Teamster members by Local 687 president Brian Hammond. The letter, dated July 16, includes the following threat:

“Health and pension—the company has agreed to pay the full amount needed to the health and pension fund of $5.28 over the life of the agreement. They will do this only if we pass our supplement [agreement] the first time. If not, the extra amount will come from your wage increase like before. Currently FT [full-time] employees have $1.95 per hour diverted to pension. I do not want to see that number increase!”

I believe I would be trying to vote this company suck ass out of office.He could stick this letter up there too the balls of some of these people.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I agree.

In regards to the article, when an entity or person obfuscate the facts by distortion and outright lying, it only hurts their cause.

Don't blame Comrade Bolshevik ... he was duped.

Why don't you GTFO monkey butt, the actual letter the article references has been posted here.

You really need to get out of your basement every now and then, you're really losing it.

 

[Staydryitsraining]

Well definitely strike the first xmas after hoffa is voted out.

 

[ManInBrown]

It’s time to get these jacka55es out of power at any cost short of not having a union for 1 year. That would not work

How do we go about getting these clowns out of power? Is it even possible?

Let’s get O’Brien to run the show. I don’t care how crooked he is, or how mobbed up he might be. I firmly believe he would have our best interests

 

[Coldworld]

I thought the original offer was a watered down version....

The original version was pretty much Hershey squirts...

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Wow three posts in a row. Sounds like OldmanMonkeybutt is really butthurt you called him out @DirtySouth.

 

[542thruNthru]

That's cool ... I come to this site for entertainment.

 

[Days]

Lol this is a sign btw that we're winning. UPS is seeing this offer won't pass and the union is feeling the pressure. It's a no still

 

[Old Man Jingles]

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Great movie!
And you, Percy, got your comeuppance in the end!

 

[542thruNthru]

Great movie!
And you, Percy, got your comeuppance in the end!

I'm not Percy!

 

[Old Man Jingles]

I'm not Percy!
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Could have fooled me!
I remember you stomping on me.

 

[542thruNthru]

Could have fooled me!
I remember you stomping on me.

You're old and your mind don't work like it used too. Kinda like Rod's downstairs equipment.

 

[bigrig]

2 1/2

 

[bigrig]

This is sad.

 

[Inthegame]

I don't disagree with your critique, and as I said earlier, I appreciate reading from many sources, which almost always display a bias.

It is the intelligent reader who can discern the biases from the facts, which leads me to this question....

....why weren't you inclined to evaluate the included source of this article (the letter from Local 687) with the same vigilance you displayed in your quoted post?

....and doesn't that make you similar to those you chose to criticize?

Did I post biased statements under the cover of a news agency? Of course not, but I did correct their factual errors. Shame on me for my belief that "news" sources have an obligation to accurately provide objective factual information. They also inaccurately reported on a past event.

The letter from the Union President, is his subjective opinion warning of a future possibility on what most likely could happen in the event of a rejection. For example, I believe one needs to look no further than 2013 and the L89 rejections which lead UPS to remove their previous offer of a signing bonus to see that Mr Hammond has legitimate concerns.

My issues on the body of this offer have been posted. Apparently you missed that. I'd wager Mr Hammond also missed my posts as we disagree on a few things. But UPS is sweetening their pot with a bonus contribution others aren't getting. Would it be fair to his members not to make them aware of the offer?

BTW, I think these posts give socialism a bad rap. These guys are fruitcakes.

And that oh wise one, is my objectively factual subjective opinion ...

 

[Bubblehead]

Did I post biased statements under the cover of a news agency? Of course not, but I did correct their factual errors. Shame on me for my belief that "news" sources have an obligation to accurately provide objective factual information. They also inaccurately reported on a past event.

The letter from the Union President, is his subjective opinion warning of a future possibility on what most likely could happen in the event of a rejection. For example, I believe one needs to look no further than 2013 and the L89 rejections which lead UPS to remove their previous offer of a signing bonus to see that Mr Hammond has legitimate concerns.

My issues on the body of this offer have been posted. Apparently you missed that. I'd wager Mr Hammond also missed my posts as we disagree on a few things. But UPS is sweetening their pot with a bonus contribution others aren't getting. Would it be fair to his members not to make them aware of the offer?

BTW, I think these posts give socialism a bad rap. These guys are fruitcakes.

And that oh wise one, is my objectively factual subjective opinion ...

Ok sure, but how can this Local President advertise this as a "one time offer", before it has been voted on by the membership???

....unless he's in conclusion with the Company and the IBT?

What a terrible "precedence" that was set in 2014???

SMH


Btw, my days of reading every post, in every thread, are long over here.
Sorry if I missed your "recommendations", perhaps I'll look them up, as I have always respected your opinion.

 

[Bubblehead]

BTW, I think these posts give socialism a bad rap.

I challenge anybody here to separate the two ideologies, of socialism and unionism???

 

[Days]

Unionism is the protection of workers and socialism is paying people to not work.