Telematics...UPS is wiring your truck

[DenverBrownDotCom]

I know how you feel Upstate, unfortunately many drivers just aren't listening or just don't get it so the story gets told over and over and over. I've already adjusted, not really hard to do, but I'm trying to get the word out to people that pay less attention than you or me. Also we have many extended centers that won't see the equipment for a year or more and we need to be aware that they will need the information when it comes around. May be the same where you are. I've found you never know who's listening. They may not make the effort to type in here and take the abuse, but there are many watching the discussion you and I are having right now. So thanks for your input, and never get tired of speaking your mind. You probably will never know the good you do.

The system is installed on the pkg cars. The system is implemented at the center level. Did you hear that they had to stop installing or implementing Telematics? Our DM was in our center last week and told us Telematics was implemented in Syracuse this past month.

On a side note, I'm not sure if I am more tired of hearing "you should feel lucky that you have a job" or "the doom and gloom of Telematics".

 

[stevetheupsguy]

I was old that ups had to stop installing it, not sure if it's true.

This rumor is probably from a feeder driver.

 

[DenverBrownDotCom]

You seem to take things a little personal P-Man. The people I'm talking about are drivers that make no effort to know the changes coming down the pike. I know, you know, but many don't. It sounds like I may have hit a nerve, but my goal is not to fight with you, or to beat on people that disagree, in fact I love those people, but my attempt is to open the eyes of the less aware. I love the fact that you disagree with me because it makes for good reading for the guy to chicken to write on these pages. I respect you for presenting your opinion, but I reserve the right to disagree with you on anything, and at any volume I chose. Free speech and all that, and may we all get to the end of the road happy!

Yes, I'm a supervisor. 33 years with UPS.

I try and post facts as I know them. Maybe I post similar things because I'm restating the same facts. I don't think I've "lashed out".

It looks like you have chosen to be the one lashing out. You have decided that anyone that disagrees with ou is "just too dumb to see".

P-Man

 

[pretzel_man]

You seem to take things a little personal P-Man. The people I'm talking about are drivers that make no effort to know the changes coming down the pike. I know, you know, but many don't. It sounds like I may have hit a nerve, but my goal is not to fight with you, or to beat on people that disagree, in fact I love those people, but my attempt is to open the eyes of the less aware. I love the fact that you disagree with me because it makes for good reading for the guy to chicken to write on these pages. I respect you for presenting your opinion, but I reserve the right to disagree with you on anything, and at any volume I chose. Free speech and all that, and may we all get to the end of the road happy!

I guess on this post we agree.

 

[soberups]

Have no fear. Tape a little magnet to the sensor on your bulkhead door, and tell em you deliver everything out of the rear door. That should make em scratch their heads.

Telematics does give us drivers the opportunuty to amuse oursleves with a little "collective action" if we chose to do so. If all drvers in a center agreed ahead of time, we could make a statement to our management team by leaving ALL of our bulkhead doors open for exactly 1/2 an hour between 1:00 and 1:30, or maybe spend 10 minutes at a prearranged time driving around an empty parking lot with the seat belt unbuckled. It would be the Telematics version of dropping our pants and mooning them. I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Division Managers office when the center manager had to go in there with his center's Telematics printout in hand and "assume the position" while he faced the wrath of his superiors.

 

[DenverBrownDotCom]

I like your idea Sober an electronic strike. Would be the first time ever!

Telematics does give us drivers the opportunuty to amuse oursleves with a little "collective action" if we chose to do so. If all drvers in a center agreed ahead of time, we could make a statement to our management team by leaving ALL of our bulkhead doors open for exactly 1/2 an hour between 1:00 and 1:30, or maybe spend 10 minutes at a prearranged time driving around an empty parking lot with the seat belt unbuckled. It would be the Telematics version of dropping our pants and mooning them. I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Division Managers office when the center manager had to go in there with his center's Telematics printout in hand and "assume the position" while he faced the wrath of his superiors.

 

[Foamer Pyle]

I am glad someone found a little humor in the magnet idea.

 

[idrivethetruck]

...And its OK for us to remove the OEM 2-point seatbelt and replace it with an equally useless 2-point belt with a Telematics sensor in the buckle....

Someone needs to explain to me what is meant by "useless 2-point belt". If you are referring to the lap belt that is on the older trucks then I can attest to the fact that they are not useless at all. In fact, the lap belt on my old p-500 probably saved my life or prevented serious injury when the truck skidded out of control in the rain and flipped on the highway. I unbuckled the seatbelt and climbed straight up through the passenger side door with only a scratch on my elbow. Is that the "useless" seatbelt you are talking about?

 

[soberups]

Someone needs to explain to me what is meant by "useless 2-point belt". If you are referring to the lap belt that is on the older trucks then I can attest to the fact that they are not useless at all. In fact, the lap belt on my old p-500 probably saved my life or prevented serious injury when the truck skidded out of control in the rain and flipped on the highway. I unbuckled the seatbelt and climbed straight up through the passenger side door with only a scratch on my elbow. Is that the "useless" seatbelt you are talking about?

You got lucky.

Next time you are in that P-5, buckle the belt and lean your upper body forward. If you are built anything like me, your jaw will come to rest on the steering wheel and your forehead will press against the windshield. In a head-on collision your head will be propelled at high speed right thru the glass and your jaw and face will get mangled on the wheel. Instant lobotomy. Or, in a high-speed rollover, you will flail around in the cab like a rag doll with your head and upper body smashing into the bulkhead, the side door and the windshield.

I should not have called the lap belt useless. It is marginally better than useless, but not by much. And the NHA and DOT agree with me, since it is illegal now to equip a new vehicle with such a belt in the first place and has been for almost 13 years. I would be willing to bet that 90% of the lap belt-equipped vehicles that are still even on the road are UPS trucks. No other company would have been so stupid or totally unconcerned with the safety of its people.

 

[soberups]

This is my fat butt in a P-5, also known as "the rolling lobotomy", the "chiropractors wet dream", the "widowmaker" or the "murderbox". Note that, even with the lap belt attached, my face can easily contact the steering wheel and windshield. Perhaps a dwarf with scoliosis could safely drive one of these things, but not me. When UPS designed this piece of garbage they made a list of every single feature that could possibly keep the driver alive in a wreck or help him to do his job without injury....and then deleted all of them. Whoever approved the purchase of these heaps of crap should be taken out behind the nearest hub and shot, or at the very least castrated, to prevent his idiotic spawn from contaminating our gene pool.

 

[Catatonic]

This is my fat butt in a P-5,

But on the positive side, your chest seems to fit the steering wheel real well.

 

[Jones]

C'mon now, tell us how ya really feel!

 

[stevetheupsguy]

This is my fat butt in a P-5, also known as "the rolling lobotomy", the "chiropractors wet dream", the "widowmaker" or the "murderbox". Note that, even with the lap belt attached, my face can easily contact the steering wheel and windshield. Perhaps a dwarf with scoliosis could safely drive one of these things, but not me. When UPS designed this piece of garbage they made a list of every single feature that could possibly keep the driver alive in a wreck or help him to do his job without injury....and then deleted all of them. Whoever approved the purchase of these heaps of crap should be taken out behind the nearest hub and shot, or at the very least castrated, to prevent his idiotic spawn from contaminating our gene pool.

Hey sobe, you look just like my old Div meanager, (yes I spelled it right), though she was a little bit shorter than you. LOL, just joking, you really look like a DM that we had, though I'm not allowed to say anything further about said DM. BTW, you don't look that fat, to me.

 

[tieguy]

I love the old news part. Can you pick out the supervisors here. P-Man just keeps posting the same garbage on every sight. Many of these people are humper dumpers trying to defend the crap they do. They just lash out at the ones trying to help them because they're to weak to lash out at their percieved daddies, UPS. 24 hours from writing on this sight to the supervisors mouth. That's all it takes. Many little scared puppy dogs on this sight. Many "all about me's". There's some good people also that understand what the goal is. Some are just too dumb to see.

I just love this guy. Anyone for some us versus them yak?

 

[stevetheupsguy]

I just love this guy. Anyone for some us versus them yak?

How would you like me to explain this post to my 7 year old daughter, who happens to be reading this over my shoulder? Was it really necessary? I've seen more intelligent stuff, scrawled on bathroom stall walls. I just lost the last little bit of respect I had for you.

 

[hdkappler]

We all knew it was coming someday and today is that day. UPS is wiring all the package cars with sensors to monitor the performance of the truck. But it monitors a lot more than that.

"Many of you have heard of the possibility of the company wiring your package cars. The plan is to put sensors on your seat belts, your bulkhead doors, your e-brake, and your reverse gear. It's happening now. Our shop has piles of the wiring harnesses to do all of the trucks..."

The future is here today.

"When you put your car in gear it senses if you have your seat belt on, and whether your bulkhead door is closed or not. Additionally it will tell if you put the car in reverse first and for how long. The other sensor on the e-brake will tell if you applied the e-brake when you turned the key off. "

And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what this system can do.

Should you be worried? Only if you don't do the job the way they want it done. If you leave your bulkhead door open, or if you nose into driveways and back out, you better get with the program. Some drivers claim to be experts at using the methods, but they only use them during a ride-along. Now, every minute of every day is an OJS ride.

If this isn't happening in your building yet, ask your mechanic when to expect it. He probably knows. That's how much time you have to perfect your methods.

No one will be spared.

George

i'am glad i'am retired.in the old days all they wanted was to get the job done.i have had a lot of good sups who would turn there backs.course the last few years before i retired they started pulling spot checks.etc.i had one sup ride with me got back to truck couldn't find next pkg.the next day i found it.it was an out of the way stop he wanted to get done early that day.all of the crap today.make the job simple so you can get done.thank goodness for retirement.

 

[cosmo1]

Originally Posted by tieguy
I just love this guy. another A-hole with a half inch johnson hiding behind the union while talking big stuff. Probably still picking management shoe leather out of his behind while he tells us what a baaaaad dude he was.

How would you like me to explain this post to my 7 year old daughter, who happens to be reading this over my shoulder? Was it really necessary? I've seen more intelligent stuff, scrawled on bathroom stall walls. I just lost the last little bit of respect I had for you.

Awesome. Tieguy is apparently really fast at editing when he realizes how far he can stick his foot in his mouth.

 

[Catatonic]

Awesome. Tieguy is apparently really fast at editing when he realizes how far he can stick his foot in his mouth.

He probably realized that he knew a guy named Johnson and did not want to offend him.

 

[soberups]

Hey sobe, you look just like my old Div meanager, (yes I spelled it right), though she was a little bit shorter than you. LOL, just joking, you really look like a DM that we had, though I'm not allowed to say anything further about said DM. BTW, you don't look that fat, to me.

Damn, that had to have been one ugly broad!

 

[stevetheupsguy]

Damn, that had to have been one ugly broad!

It was one of those, man, she's gone already?, experiences. LOL