Texas school shooting

[Babagounj]

I have the solution to stop all school shootings.

Fire all the teachers and ban all schools.

 

[UnionStrong]

I think he likes you.

 

[Lineandinitial]

I think he likes you.

He is desperate for acceptance and attention.

 

[newfie]

I understand your point of view completely.

Would you feel the same if your child was killed by friendly fire?

Would you feel the same if your child laid there wounded and bled to death while police officers did over an hour of fixing to fight?

 

[Integrity]

Would you feel the same if your child laid there wounded and bled to death while police officers did over an hour of fixing to fight?

If my child was do die before me. I do believe the feelings I would feel would be sadness, loss, mourning, and grief. I do believe these would be my feelings regardless of the manner in which he were to die,

If he were murdered the great challenge would be to forgive the perpetrator unconditionally.

I don’t know if I could, I believe that would be a significant spiritual challenge.

 

[newolddude]

Would you feel the same if your child laid there wounded and bled to death while police officers did over an hour of fixing to fight?

At least he’d be comforted knowing the police are safe.

Police officers are more valuable than our children seems to be the feeling.

 

[vantexan]

If my child was do die before me. I do believe the feelings I would feel would be sadness, loss, mourning, and grief. I do believe these would be my feelings regardless of the manner in which he were to die,

If he were murdered the great challenge would be to forgive the perpetrator unconditionally.

I don’t know if I could, I believe that would be a significant spiritual challenge.

You may very well feel your child must be sacrificed before you violate your principles. Other parents would probably rather die themselves trying to save their own child. And yours too while saving theirs.

 

[fishtm2001]

You may very well feel your child must be sacrificed before you violate your principles. Other parents would probably rather die themselves trying to save their own child. And yours too while saving theirs.

doesn't apply in Texass where the cops are apparently very fearful.

 

[vantexan]

doesn't apply in Texass where the cops are apparently very fearful.

Yah, one rural town police department represents the whole state.

 

[Fred's Myth]

doesn't apply in Texass where the cops are apparently very fearful.

You have no inkling of the enormity of the State of Texas.

We even have room for j**ks like you. Just don’t overstay your welcome.

 

[Gotta Go]

 

[Integrity]

You may very well feel your child must be sacrificed before you violate your principles. Other parents would probably rather die themselves trying to save their own child. And yours too while saving theirs.

Not sure if your point but ok.

 

[Lineandinitial]

Not sure if your point but ok.

Holy God! I would wager that 99.9999% of the people reading your post and his response above would understand his point.

C’mon man!!!!!

 

[Integrity]

Holy God! I would wager that 99.9999% of the people reading your post and his response above would understand his point.

C’mon man!!!!!

Talking about my post and not the point or topic in the flow of discussion again I see.

Please do enlighten me.

I know you won’t.

You’ll probably talk about this post instead.

Peace.

 

[fishtm2001]

Yah, one rural town police department represents the whole state.

They follow the lead of their Governor and AG. both of whom are super smart.

 

[Lineandinitial]

Talking about my post and not the point or topic in the flow of discussion again I see.

Please do enlighten me.

I know you won’t.

You’ll probably talk about this post instead.

Peace.

Negative. My point is that you don't get his simple point. That decays the quality of most discussions you stick your head into and perhaps you should stay out of them....

Now, you'll come back with something about your rights and report me for harassing you, but the ignorance schtick distract and steers intelligent conversation away and towards that ignorance schtick.

Just pointing out the clearly obvious, but you won't get it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Negative. My point is that you don't get his simple point. That decays the quality of most discussions you stick your head into and perhaps you should stay out of them....

Now, you'll come back with something about your rights and report me for harassing you, but the ignorance schtick distract and steers intelligent conversation away and towards that ignorance schtick.

Just pointing out the clearly obvious, but you won't get it.

If your trying to have a discussion with integrity you should just put him on ignore. It’s A pointless and fruitless endeavor. Nothing worth your time.

 

[fishtm2001]

• 11:28 am: The shooter, who didn’t have a driver’s license or know how to drive, crashes his vehicle into a ditch, in front of Robb Elementary and the nearby funeral home.
• 11:29: A teacher inside the school observes the crash and calls 911 to report that there is a man with a gun; the shooter shoots at two people who left the funeral home after the crash.
• 11:31: The shooter begins shooting at the school, firing 27 times into two classrooms as he approaches the building.
• 11:33: The shooter enters the west entrance of the school through an unlocked door. The school begins an active shooter lockdown. The shooter fires into classrooms 111 and 112 through the hallway. He enters and exits the classrooms, firing more than 100 rounds.
• 11:35: Three Uvalde police officers, with two rifles, enter the school building.
• 11:36: A total of 11 police officers are in the building: Uvalde PD officers and school district police officers, including Arredondo.
• 11:37: The shooter fires another 11 rounds. Some of the bullets go through the walls and graze two approaching officers. The officers retreat.
• 11:40: The chief received a report from an unknown officer that the shooter was “contained in this office,” suggesting that the subject was barricaded or that a hostage situation — not an active shooter — was in process.
• Shortly after 11:40: Chief Arredondo calls the Uvalde police from his cellphone and provides an incident description, asking for a SWAT team and a radio and claiming to lack firepower.
• 11:40: The shooter fires one round.
• 11:41: Uvalde police report that they believe the shooter is barricaded in “one of the offices” and is still shooting. (This is more misinformation. He’s not barricaded in an office, since there is no office on the floor plan.)
• Dispatch asks if the classroom door is locked and the officer responds, “I’m not sure but we have a hooligan to break it.”
• 11:42: More officers continue to enter the school.
• 11:44: The shooter fires another round.
• 11:48: Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District Officer Ruben Ruiz enters the school and tells officers that his wife told him she had been shot. Ruben is physically detained and escorted off the scene while having his gun taken away, according to McCraw.
• 11:52: The first ballistic shield enters the school building. Uvalde Police Department officers show up and get told to help with crowd control.
• 11:54: A Department of Public Safety special agent enters the building and asks, “Are kids still in there?” An unknown officer responds, “It is unknown at this time.”
  • 11:56 am: The DPS special agent says, “If there’s kids in there, we need to go in there.”
  • 12:03 pm: Khloie Torres, a student inside room 112, calls 911. The second ballistic shield enters the building.
  • 12:04: The third ballistic shield enters the building
• • 12:11 pm: Arredondo requests a master key.
  • 12:14: Arredondo instructs officers to have a sniper on the east roof of the school.
  • 12:16 pm: Arredondo says, “I just need a key.”
  • 12:17: Arredondo says, “Tell them to ing wait. No one comes in.”
  • 12:20: The fourth ballistic shield enters the building.
  • 12:21: The shooter fires four rounds.
  • 12:21–12:33: Arredondo, on body camera audio, asks for a breaching tool and says, “If he starts shooting, we’re going to lose more kids.” He continues to say that he needs keys to get through the door and that the keys he already has aren’t working. “We’re ready to breach, but that door is locked,” he says. “I say we breach through those windows and shoot his ing head off through the windows.”
  • 12:35 pm: A hooligan tool, used by firefighters to gain entry, is brought into the building.
  • 12:41: Arredondo says, “Just so you understand, we think there are some injuries in there. And so you know what we did, we cleared off the rest of the building so we wouldn’t have any more besides what’s already in there, obviously.”
  • 12:42: Arredondo says, “We have a ing problem getting into the room because it is locked. He’s got an AR-15 and he’s shooting everywhere like crazy. So, he’s stopped.”
  • 12:43: Arredondo says, “They gotta get that ing door open, bro. They can’t get that door open. We need more keys or something.”
  • 12:46 pm: Arredondo says, “If y’all are ready to do it, you do it. But you should distract him out that window.”
  • 12:47: A sledgehammer enters the building.
  • 12:50: A stack of seven officers tries to enter the classroom. Only four are able to enter the classroom because the door closes and leaves the other three out. Five officers fire rounds at the shooter and kill him.

 

[Integrity]

Negative. My point is that you don't get his simple point. That decays the quality of most discussions you stick your head into and perhaps you should stay out of them....

Now, you'll come back with something about your rights and report me for harassing you, but the ignorance schtick distract and steers intelligent conversation away and towards that ignorance schtick.

Just pointing out the clearly obvious, but you won't get it.

What is clearly obvious is again you are talking about me and not the point you claim is so simple. And it wasn’t even your point, go figure?

I hope @vantexan is willing to further the public dialogue we have been having, I have tried to share openly, honestly and respectfully with him even though our points of view are different.

You on the other hand seem to have difficulty following the flow of dialogue. You seem to intentionally attack, harass and condemn posts and posting styles much more than you stay on point.

You have yet to enlighten me on the point of the stated post that you claimed was simple.

You won’t.

Peace be with you.

 

[Lineandinitial]

What is clearly obvious is again you are talking about me and not the point you claim is so simple. And it wasn’t even your point, go figure?

You still don't get it....."......box of rocks".

I hope @vantexan is willing to further the public dialogue we have been having, I have tried to share openly, honestly and respectfully with him even though our points of view are different.

So, why don't you get a private room if you want to have "public dialogue" with him with no interference from anyone because in your world you EXPECT everyone to stay on topic (when you yourself are the worst offender of straying off topic).

You on the other hand seem to have difficulty following the flow of dialogue.

Coming from the guy/gal/other whose main contributions are naivete and ignorance about everyone's "meaning" and "POV".

You seem to intentionally attack, harass and condemn posts and posting styles much more than you stay on point.

LOL....Are you a stalker? Are you keeping count? Do you know what leads me to ask that? Take a guess why I would think you're keeping score...

You have yet to enlighten me on the point of the stated post that you claimed was simple.

Well, ok.....You fail to grasp his simple point........THAT WAS THE POINT!!!!!!!!

You won’t.

I did and I always have. You're just lying because you either have wet brain or a short attention span.

Peace be with you.

Peace through strength......Yep....that's what I believe in.