MAKAVELI
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For that matter, if they don't care about safety at Express, why would they care about safety at Ground? It's all about profit, profit, profit.
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Because overall it's still cheaper than making them all THEIR employees. That and the fact that drivers with a year or less have the majority of accidents under their DOT number.
Accidents kill profit. Don't kid yourself. They care.
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If they care, it's only because it's tarnishing the brand. I'm curious, who pays for Ground accidents? I know it's been posted before. Don't remember answer.
MAKAVELI
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Don't kid yourself. That's why your drivers leave to Express. Because they don't care.
Yeah. 2 left and from reports coming back to other drivers I don't think I have to worry about that anymore.
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They don't even pay attention to who my drivers are let alone how long they've been around. Retention of Ground drivers is very low priority. FedEx takes back incentive money when there's an accident and my insurance pays the claim. They carry an overall liability insurance but accident cost is a double whammy for my company.
If it has any package on it, FedEx pays for damage to property and my insurance pays for injury or property loss for my driver and/vehicle.
If there are no packages, then it is my "dead head" insurance.
And yes. It tarnishes their brand and affects their FMCSA score and US DOT number. That's enough caring for me because those are the only things that make them notice when problems are occurring.
Driver retention bonus? Lol. Sammy and soc want cake and a fork to eat it too. That would cement your "independent business" as nothing more than a supervisory role. Where in the industry does the "customer" pay the "contractor" extra for retaining drivers? It's your "business" to come up with other streams of revenue to pay your "employees" like having extra customers. Oh yeah, your one and only "customer" won't let you with the contract they "control" you with. You guys need to be sharper, like Sweet Lou in Annapolis, is what your "customer" will tell you I'm sure. Maybe he will show how he "acquired" his empire with a seventh grade education. He might even train you how to be a savvy businessman like him, with his Marie Antoinette attitude. Show you how to sign your contract with an X, negotiate like a shark, as he does in the Post article. He is the future of Ground, until Fed Ex tires of him and props up their new flavor of the year. I can see Sammy's hedge funders flocking to "Mecca" Maryland to learn the biz from the ultimate tool, lol.
Oh, M I, you're such a simpleton. It doesn't matter what they call the money. It could be labeled "driver retention" or "bbsam's porn stash money". The fact of the matter is that they've been too cheap for too long and they need to pay better. I mean, hell, I could lose two drivers tomorrow and still cover easily. I could lose another the next and still cover what I'm contracted to cover. With that $2500 per week we could probably afford some half ass insurance but there'd be no time off whatsoever. There's not enough money to make it all happen. So we go with the flow until Pittsburgh decides what everyone else already knows. They are dangerously cheap.
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And you are nothing but a smacked a**! No need to name call is there? With that said Smack, they could label it any which way, which they do with reports in their ground manager manual. Yes, there is one. I'm on your side with the pay etc, but, any labor lawyer worth their salt, would find this on a settlement sheet, and define you as nothing more than supervisor (which is what you are). You need to negotiate harder next time, for yourself, like you say you can as an ISP, instead of accepting a unilateral take it or leave it contract. Not enough money to make it happen? Aren't you the one to call the kettle black! Telling others that they just didn't know how manage business and lacked skills. Same then goes for you. As you like to say "just quit if you can't handle it" stop whining and contact your new idol, Sweet Lou, he should be parking the jet skis right about now.
You must be confusing me with someone else. I am in a position to negotiate. I am in a position to walk away from Sunday deliveries during peak. There are a lot of things to be managed and try as they might, they arent going to get even close to what they want out of contractors this peak. The monetary incentive isn't there. Tell me how many Express op managers an pull that one off. Negotiations are ongoing. They are always ongoing.
Then negotiate retention pay for your "business" instead of only negotiating the few blank spaces of basically a unilateral contract all other ISP's are given. Don't whine on here about it. Just DO it! I'm on your side about pay, benefits, etc., but, you want to pick and choose your amount of independence, when it fits you and your needs. I can't sympathize with you on this one because your past has been if it doesn't suit you, blast the complaint. So now you speak for all contractors? Even the ones you deem "whiners"? Who said you were going to have to work Sundays? Does that mean other "supervisors" in your locale have to work Sundays? If so, why?
They have to work Sundays because the signed an agreement to do so. Oh, they'll get paid a little more. Won't be worth it though.
Everything is a negotiation. Everything is scrutinized every single day. I'm in competition with the other local contractors every day. The company has a lot to compare and contrast. Some retain drIvers better, some have better service, fewer complaints, fewer accidents. None of that is for free. I bet the company could find someone to do my job for $50,000 less. They wouldn't be nearly as good though.
So you shouldn't mistake what I'm saying as "whining". It's not. It's simply stating facts that I believe the company already knows. To get what they want, they will have to pay more. As I told my SM, I'm going to make plenty of money this peak but it won't be on Sundays, it won't be the Saturday BEFORE Thanksgiving, and it doesn't matter to me if other contractors are failing miserably all around me. I keep myself staffed all year for peak. It's not cheap, but it 8s the right way. Their coming disaster isn't my concern. Action and inaction are powerful negotiating tools.
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I doubt anyone at ground actually works a Sunday this year. It's there in case they shut down some other day, but it basically takes fire raining from the sky for FedEx to shut down for a day. It will be in your contract next time you negotiate anyway, might as well take the extra money now. I know it's too late, but it seems like a silly argument if you're hitting your threshold, which is easy if you're properly staffed the rest of the year.
Good for you, I'm happy for you. So, you are the only one who negotiated this Sunday deal? Or was it an option? I agree it is the right way. It's how I did it, others would ask me how I did it, my answer would be piece of mind is much more important than a few bucks. Of course, X didn't like it that I did my way back then, and shoo me out they did.
Wishful thinking on your part. All it takes is a snow storm two states away. Hell, you've already committed to the money losing venture a Sunday would be. There's absolutely no reason for them not to insist upon it for whatever reason they concoct. In the past they would request you spend the money. Now they will tell you to. And when the next contract comes along, which contractors lived up to the Agreement they signed and which ones failed for the sake of a few bucks they didn't get to keep anyway? Remember, you're always competing.
Incidentally, two Sundays would wipe out the gains I would have made in signing on.
It was an option. Most just signed up for the money and didn't read through what the implications were.
I do it by subcontracting. I run a lot of area that I can easily dump at any time. Peace of mid for me and increased revenue.
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If they want you to work on Sunday they can always make it a service day. They have option to define those however they want at any time with written notice. I'll take the cash.
