Integrity
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Do you have a desire within you for good or evil?
The way the world is supposed to be?
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Integrity
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Do you desire good or evil?
Integrity
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What evidence do you base your belief in this on?
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
Evidence on what ??
People being good ??
Integrity
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This hope is the only hope I have ever heard that promises for us to see our beloved again.
Life can hurt. I am sorry for your pain from the loss of your parents.
Integrity
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Evidence supporting your belief that there is far more good in this world than evil.
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
Look around you , people doing for the sick , the hungry, the homeless ,the poor , the elderly , people who help others when in a jam ,, it’s done every day ,, that to me is the goodness in the world
yadadamean116
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zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
I think humans are essentially good, but are broken. We came into existence in the "Garden", where there was no struggle for survival, so no need for conflict. I like to look at the story of Adam and Eve being thrown out of the garden as a metaphor for both humans on the individual level and humans on a societal level.
As individuals, when we are children, we are taken care of by our parents. No need for struggle to survive, sort of like being in the "Garden". Once we eat of the "tree of knowledge of good and evil", that is "grow up" and become responsible for ourselves, we get thrown out, or choose to leave, mom and dad's house. Life becomes a struggle and we face conflict.
On a societal level, the Garden represents the ability of small tribes of nomadic humans, as must have comprised the entirety of the human population at some point, to survive by foraging for wild grown food. Back before the advent of modern language, and, presumably, real self-awareness, there was plenty to go around, living off the fat of the land. Once populations grew to a certain point, terrritories and resources were fought over, the concept of the "Garden" was lost.
The eating of the fruit of the "tree of knowledge of good and evil" is representative of the emerging conciousness and self-awareness of humanity. We began to understand that our actions had consequences, and those, in turn, had an affect on ourselves.
I think as population density increases, the struggle to choose between good and evil takes on a greater urgency, but we tend to lose sight of what, exactly, is good or evil. When threatened with existential crises, it is everyone's right to seek self-preservation, which is where we tend to compromise our pursuit of good.
It's not obvious to us that working together and being self-sacrificial is the only way we all make it through. That, I believe, is the essense of the life and teachings of Jesus, if you strip them of their metaphysical aspects. He revealed to us what it is to eat of the fruit of the "Tree of Life".
As for what God did or did not intend, I agree that may always remain a mystery. But, if you agree with the more common take, amongst evangelical Christians, on the book of Revelation, we will be facing some pretty dire circumstances before things get better.
Heavy Package
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There is a God and through Jesus Christ, His Son, we are saved. Despite all of the commercialism this Christmas and throughout the year, God loves us so much that He sent His Son so that we are His ultimate gift. The irony of what we do every day dropping off cardboard presents this time of year, it is easy to lose sight of what really matters.
rod
Retired 22 years
Then how can you explain god letting GOOD people die horrible deaths and skumbags getting off scott free?
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
"Ecclesiastes 8
14 There is something else meaningless that occurs on earth: the righteous who get what the wicked deserve, and the wicked who get what the righteous deserve. This too, I say, is meaningless. 15 So I commend the enjoyment of life, because there is nothing better for a person under the sun than to eat and drink and be glad. Then joy will accompany them in their toil all the days of the life God has given them under the sun."
rod
Retired 22 years
Typical religious cop-out.
rod
Retired 22 years
I question EVERYTHING I don't fully agree with.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
I think you mean "understand" rather than "agree with". Do you believe God exists? Or do you use the existence of suffering and injustice in the world as a "cop out" to say that God does not exist? If that's the case, who is there to blame for the injustice and suffering? Only ourselves. Which begs the question, how would you end all the suffering and injustice in the world if you could?
olroadbeech
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it seems like evil is rewarded quickly but good is rewarded in the long run. that is why most people prefer being bad.
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