Everywhere is different and a extended center is probably really different. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say that PT was voting more then FT. I'm saying that everyone is blaming PT for the bad turn out and I don't agree with it. Let's look at my building and like I said everywhere is different. We have many many PT workers that have more years then most full time drivers in other areas. It takes 11 years to go FT here. You think those PT workers don't see how they are getting screwed with 22.4s or how lower PT are getting huge bumps in pay? Now think about 25 year and up drivers. You think they really care about 22.4 drivers? In my building and even on here. Most cared about the pension and healthcare. They could careless about the rest because they have the seniority and are on their way out. I spent a lot of personal time passing out info at 3 different buildings. More high seniority members didn't even know what was going on than PT members did. Again that's my experience and I'm just saying I believe FT beat out PT with vote count but I don't think it's nearly as high as some people think it is.