1989
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Add language “no full time drivers are to be load off”
Two Tier Driver....AKA Combo job
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UnconTROLLed
perfection
Funny but I think you have it wrong at least in some instances. Personally I don't want to be treated like a POS and stuck on bad routes. I'd rather work 8 or 9 and have a set start/end time. Given the above it is a no brainer what the choice is. I dont miss the 12 13 hour beatdowns (like our centers today)
Also as a 22.3 I work as hard or harder than as a driver given an average amount of window time on a route. That is just my view but there are 22.3s with easier work too.
Also as a 22.3 I work as hard or harder than as a driver given an average amount of window time on a route. That is just my view but there are 22.3s with easier work too.
john chesney
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Do you mean laid off? I agree but what’s your bid route going to look like after the part timers deliver on the weekends? You going to have 150 business stops or your route with splits you never been before. I just think the full time drivers are going to be screwed. Not to mention how bad they’ll want to get rid of you
Pay them double time over 8 hours, so they don't abuse them.
john chesney
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That would help for sure but even 8 hours on a route of slop when you come in on Monday would suck. I hope I’m wrong I’m just thinking about that senecio.
They wowi cut Monday routes and try to get people to work 4X10
iruhnman630
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I hit yes to see the results.
This could be a good thing, I guess.
Maybe.
Depends on the details.
This could be a good thing, I guess.
Maybe.
Depends on the details.
The bid drivers that opted a Tuesday through Saturday route and or the cover drivers that bid Tuesday through Saturday. Hope this helps.
El Correcto
god is dead
It’s how the question is worded. He didn’t ask do you approve Ups supplementing full time drivers with lower paid part time drivers.
PT Car Washer
Banned
None of our bid drivers bid T- S. They are all unassigned cover drivers in their first or second year. None of our Saturday ground routes are bid just like Saturday Air routes.
We went through a rebid of every route. Sean required UPS to due to a change in schedule. Each of the 4 centers in my building runs about 15 routes per center. It ended up forcing UPS to hire a bunch of people.
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Frankie's Friend
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The local doesn't have the gahoonas to do that here.
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
Here, if we work over 4 hrs in a higher paid wage job we get the higher wage for the whole day.
Keep that the same, dont exclude the supposed 22-4 (garbage) jobs and may be problem solved because you know they'll often go over 4 hrs daily in package work.
Correction
Each of the 4 centers runs 15 routes on a Saturday. During the week we range in the upper 50’s
1989
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Sounds like your building needs to go down to 3 maybe 2 centers.
I wouldn’t have a problem if this is what would actually happen.
What WILL happen is these “combo” drivers will drive ALL day due to understaffing the actual driver positions. There will never be “enough work” for actually hanging bids for drivers ever again. You will abuse this position to have lower paid labor. This already happens with air drivers. Our air drivers get more hours than our actual drivers. They work preload, then drive all day at top rate. But yet there is never enough work for more bids.
Are there centers with 120 routes?
1989
Well-Known Member
Over 100
Method Mensch
Well-Known Member
As long as they get ground rate!
RuthlessSupSlayer
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No absolutely not. The shuttle/leftovers are where the easy days are and lets some veteran drivers get some work but not a whole if they choose to code 05. Also gives UPS more incentive to make more of these and limit full time positions and lay off more full just to offer a lower paying job for the same work.
No tiers same work same pay end of story.
No tiers same work same pay end of story.
