born2Bwild
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Who would want to be working when their kids are at home? Or when their friends are out there having fun ? Evenings and weekend? I truly seen the company having hard time with staffing you’ll see
Under No Circumstances Can 22.4 Be Allowed To Remain
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Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Eat a dick. I didn't say I supported this contract, I haven't once tried to sell anyone anything. My observation of the goings-on has led me to believe that this will pass.
You keep going around cocking off like that, sweetheart, and you're gonna buy your husband an ass-whooping.
542thruNthru
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Frankie's Friend
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I'm not gay. Evidently it's on your mind tonite "sweetheart"?
Try midol. They say it helps with your cramps.
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Tony's got cramps.
Indecisi0n
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Not that there is anything wrong with that
Foamer Pyle
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The simplest solution is the lowest full time drivers on the seniority list have to work that schedule. Once they get a few drivers below them, then they can get the Monday-Friday gig. It’s really not that difficult. This is nothing more than UPS getting a lower paid driver to do the same work, with zero overtime protection. Ups will abuse the crap out of this, just like every thing else they get away with. The only full time drivers that will be hurt by this are the guys that cry for overtime. You know the ones that would work 9am to 10pm every day, if they could.
badpal
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Yeah, i sure aint got no problem with it, but be nice if we got a signing bonus like in the old days. no mention of anybody voting against in my center.
My question is once a driver wins a bid route can management change it? If a RPCD has a route that's 10 hours long most days how could he get much relief from the 22.4 guys Tuesday to Friday? One driver I talked to thinks the 22.4 guys will be doing all the easy stuff T-friend like bulk pick ups, UPS stores etc. and then regular routes on Saturday & Sunday only. That would be a hell of a lot easier than 3 level apartments every day!
Has anyone thought about what happens to a lower seniority driver if 22.4 goes in. They won’t be working on Monday only working T-friend May not get enough hours in a year for a full year of pension credit I think the union wants this to help save
all the pension funds they get $ flowing in and many won’t get a years credit in the fund. Most won’t realize what happened till decades later when retirement is near.
all the pension funds they get $ flowing in and many won’t get a years credit in the fund. Most won’t realize what happened till decades later when retirement is near.
iruhnman630
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Some kind of rotation with extreme flexibility may be a better option than making 22.4s work every weekend. But the union didn't choose that path.
bowhnterdon
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All this discussion and name calling. The Union and the Company have decided that the 22.4 is a good idea. Get used to it, gonna happen with or without our vote
BigUnionGuy
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The majority of the members (that even bothered) to submit proposals, wanted a reduction
in forced overtime and didn't want to work weekends. Problem solved.
The company saves a few bucks and kicks more into the Pensions and Health & Welfare.
Without our vote it can't happen.
Unless you mean, the members that don't bother to vote and the 50% threshold isn't met.
And then, you need a 2/3 majority of no votes. That's what really scares the vote no people.
Voting stats.... bear out my claim.
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bowhnterdon
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You are always right. After all, you are the Big Union Goo... uh Guy..
Feeder drivers
The company wanted extreme flexibility in the form of package car drivers working any 5 in 7 days. Those days you worked would've been chosen by the company. All the drivers in the building I work in were ALL against it. Not one driver thought that was a good idea.
They'll have overtime protection under Article 19 of the Western Supplement if they're in the West.
Good. Hope they’ll vote yes to their supplement and no to the National.
542thruNthru
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Lol I keep hearing this. Tell me something. What's the penalty if the company doesn't follow Art19?
No monetary penalty = No overtime protection.
We also have Art37 for harassment. Don't see that doing much good.
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