I'm in the unique position to share a few things about both jobs. Worked at Express as a courier for 10+years. Now employed as a package car driver at UPS. First let me start by saying. Fred Smith is a horrible individual. Really an evil person. The way you guys and gals get treated in every facet of the job by mgmt is reprehensible. It's an absolute joke. From the takeaways to the lack of raises to the extended breaks and everything in between. Now I used to be the first one to say. "How hard could being a UPS driver be? On one hand a lot more stops. But the routes are much tighter." And the latter two are true. I'm here to tell you it is a totally different animal. They're not the same job. There are days where I can't even walk in the morning when I first wake up I'm so sore. Routes heavy on commercial stops are grueling. And when you are low man on the totem pole that's what you do. No cake residential heavy routes. That being said I love it. Because you have a financial future at UPS. Wouldn't do anything different if I had to do it all over again. People at my center are great. Supes are cool. It's a much better environment. It's really a job to be proud of. I keep my head down and don't get involved in any of the politics or complaining. A lot of the old timers complain but it's mostly complacency. They have the job and the great pay so what else is there to do but complain. They wouldn't trade it for anything IMO. You have a future working at UPS. Top rate is great when you make it there. It's a living wage unlike Express. But you work for it. You earn every penny of that hourly wage. You stay out till you're done! Period. You get home LATE some nights. The later start times are great. No loading your own truck is a big plus. Really like that. It's no cakewalk. Just wanted to give my perspective on both jobs. I wish you guys and gals at Express the best. You deserve to be treated better then you are treated. Deserve consistent raises. But you do not deserve to be paid UPS wages. If Ground freight was combined with Express, then you would deserve UPS wages.