Please here me out to the very end. There are some decent things here at UPS such as a decent wage, pension, and benefits which could be better but there's alot worse out there than what we have. Atleast that's how I feel here in the Northeast. On the otherhand, we have managers and supervisors who are brainwashed by UPS to harass, intimidate, and bully each and every driver to increase production. They will lie, stab us in the back, and throw us under the bus just to save their own jobs because they can't handle the pressure from Corporate! I know too many supervisors and even some management that are so stressed out that they look 100yrs. old, morbidly overwieght, heavy smokers&drinkers who are so are suspected of dabbling in illegal drug use who wished they were drivers because they have no say in any matter and know everyday they come to work their job is on the line. I know alot of management people who have cracked and are on stress leave, some who just quit because it wasn't worth to stay here, and the lucky ones who found other jobs in this econmy. My point is this--- if every union hourly employee never contributed to United Way. I am not saying don't donate to your favorite charities just DO NOT do it thru the UPS WEELKY DEDUCTION PAYROLL. Do it w/ your own checkbook. Secondly, I know there use to be a 10% now a 5% break on the UPS stock ownership and everyone wants to put a little nest egg away for the future and I do understand this. I amjust saying if all hourly union employees sold all of our stock and weekly deductions for the plan we could send a HUGE MESSAGE to CORPORATE that we don't need their stock and to go find money somewhere else. Our stock has increased it's dividenr, but it hasn't done a thind since it went public for three reasons---65% of the stock is owned by BIG MUTUAL FUNDS, Wall Street hates UNION COMPANY STOCKS, and last and most important is the the stock is controlled by OUR BIGWIGS in ATLANTA! Thats the truth because If I recall only 10% of our class B shares which equals 1% of our overall company is PUBLIC so therefore ATLANTA will always control the STOCK! WE need to send a message to Atlanta that we dont need the sticking stock! By the way I DO NOT OWN ANY UPS STOCK! I research and find alot of highr paying stocks to add to my portfolio which have done ALOTTTT better over the past 10-15years than UPS STOCK. I would love to hear eveybodies feedback on these two topics. All the Best to Each and Everyone of You! HAPPY HOLIDAYS!