UPS lost 106 million in Q4

[Rick Ross]

Loss was because of a $1.8 billion pension charge, it's not like they were in the red for the quarter.

Ups did finally release Amazon numbers from 2019. Amazon spent $8.6 billion or 11.6% of revenue.

Amazon is probably 11.6% of revenue but 20% of packages processed. I think UPS is paying for all the growth with Amazon and will eventually give them the boot or charge them higher rates.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

There is none. Bezos not interested in buying ups with teamster workforce.

Now that’s where you are wrong buddy! He’s a liberal and liberals love labor and unions. He probably can’t wait take us in......










LOL!

 

[watdaflock?]

Amazon is sniffing around looking to buy UPS.

Prove it.

 

[watdaflock?]

not related but it's ironic that bloomberg and steyer are spending 100's of millions of dollars that have been financed by the trump stock market.

Bloomberg making money on the stock market began a long time ago, he's also been donating 100's of millions of dollars before Trump. Bloomberg Philanthropies focuses its resources on five areas: the environment, public health, the arts, government innovation and education.

 

[rod]

 

[MattM]

How do they overcome the pension hit? Won't it just get worse each and every quarter?

 

[Wally]

Loss was because of a $1.8 billion pension charge, it's not like they were in the red for the quarter.

Ups did finally release Amazon numbers from 2019. Amazon spent $8.6 billion or 11.6% of revenue.

Amazon is probably 11.6% of revenue but 20% of packages processed. I think UPS is paying for all the growth with Amazon and will eventually give them the boot or charge them higher rates.

Letting Amazon overwhelm the system certainly doesn't help us make money.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

UPS is forecasting lower earnings for all of 2020 as well.

 

[Wally]

Bloomberg making money on the stock market began a long time ago, he's also been donating 100's of millions of dollars before Trump. Bloomberg Philanthropies focuses its resources on five areas: the environment, public health, the arts, government innovation and education.

And jet travel. He loves that private jet even though he wants you walking to work.

 

[Redtag]

Ohh wow, just found out I have to out service half my fleet when I go in tonight. Maybe they are selling the package cars to amazon?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Ohh wow, just found out I have to out service half my fleet when I go in tonight. Maybe they are selling the package cars to amazon?

The red tags are piling up here. Guess that isn't going to change anytime soon?

 

[Redtag]

The red tags are piling up here. Guess that isn't going to change anytime soon?

Tis the season to fix things

 

[MattM]

Amazon had quite the surge. Up 13%. Tell me that feels right?

We're bending over backwards for them, and we're the one in the dumps, and Amazon is flourishing. Sad stuff

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Amazon had quite the surge. Up 13%. Tell me that feels right?

We're bending over backwards for them, and we're the one in the dumps, and Amazon is flourishing. Sad stuff

Have some faith. UPS is still going strong.
They survived two work wars, the great depression, the great recession.
Plus we have more competition now than ever before.

 

[Brownslave688]

I guess you can only buy back your shares for a while before the investors catch on..... All companies are over-leveraged with debt.

UPS has been buying new trucks like candy this last year....most old models that are manual trannies are sitting in the junk yard waiting to be decommissioned...... where is all this money coming from?

The massive revenue they rake in.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...er-earnings-bolstered-by-amazon-driven-demand

 

[Days]

No one could’ve predicted this. I mean, no one

 

[MattM]

Have some faith. UPS is still going strong.
They survived two work wars, the great depression, the great recession.
Plus we have more competition now than ever before.

True.

Sadly I only own ups stock. So this hurt quite a bit today.

My air building processes 90% Amazon now. All this hard work for another company to see the gains.

Will I even have a pension in 20 years upon retirement? This news feel grim.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

True.

Sadly I only own ups stock. So this hurt quite a bit today.

My air building processes 90% Amazon now. All this hard work for another company to see the gains.

Will I even have a pension in 20 years upon retirement? This news feel grim.

Never make too large of an investment in one company. It can bite you in the ass

 

[Poop Head]

UPS is forecasting lower earnings for all of 2020 as well.

Two words.

Dynamic Orion

 

[PAUPSGuy]

I guess I'm the only one on here sensing the shift? UPS is building out its infrastructure while simultaneously starting the Amazon 'slow roll'. I can't predict the future but UPS is definitely starting to swing back. 1.8b invested into pensions after all of their buyouts means they are removing waste for something. Automation will begin to pay off over the next 5 years. Amazon is coming, fast, but UPS is starting to recalibrate. This is a breath of fresh air for me personally. My biggest concern isn't Bezos anymore/right now. Berkshire Hathaway buying FedEx has me uneasy for 2021/2022. Too much pedigree to fail if they take over that "white elephant" - as Warren Buffet put it.

The company is going to need some heavy hitters on all levels of every arm of the company but especially operations to ensure survival. Despite your animosity, you all will need to rally this year. That 1.4b investment in PA will increase every relevant metric. Idk guys, I was leery and critical about UPS but I'm sensing a change. Not the transformational kind, but top-down leadership. Don't take my word for it but at least pay attention.