Ups my choice

dilligaf

IN VINO VERITAS
Already have and the West Region IE group is running analysis from the data to determine the frequency of NDA versus 2DA in the On-Call pickups in the West Region. That information will then be used to prioritize your request in the list of things to be done in future ODS/DIAD releases. It is a 3 system impact across two development portfolios with different release schedules but I have talked with all the impacted systems and this is doable.

Thanks for your input Dilli.

I will warn you that the DIAD development cycle is an 18 month process.
Thanks Hoax, I think.............................. :dissapointed::happy2:It would certainly be a great help for us drivers.
 
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chuchu

Guest
No doubt.

I do read the posts and take that feedback to the IE contacts and other Corporate contacts I have.

UPS has changed several procedures and applications based on the feedback I see on here.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the feedback but I'm simply not going to waste my time explaining why things are done the way they are when people only want to bitch and argue their side.

Keep them coming as I really do read all of your posts I see.
A hypothesis is based on known and reasonable facts that lead to a conclusion by history, educated overview and proven, consistant experience...i.e. an educated guess based on past results found to be factual. The negative responses you are reading about in these posts are because these programs (like PAS implementation) MANY times fail initially and or become extinct pretty darn quickly because the people who have to make milkshakes out of the mud we're dispenced rarely get asked (on a broad scale) how to make them work. We're just overpaid meat. This service is only going to prosper if the PDS is intelligent and actually cares to communicate with the drivers. Honestly, we don't have an abundance of those employees in our center. My experience (like so many others posting on this issue) is that we are on a ship led by a crew who leaves us on the rocks too often with no land in sight. If management is so much smarter than the hourly employees that actually do the work then why do the on-road sups have to code '02' in their board so they can run "scratch". Run "scratch" with an '05' or an '06' code and I will begin to say you have some credibility. The divide is great between you and us predominently because management has made it that way. Management has a communication problem. Take that to your I.E. friends.
 

Re-Raise

Well-Known Member
Already have and the West Region IE group is running analysis from the data to determine the frequency of NDA versus 2DA in the On-Call pickups in the West Region. That information will then be used to prioritize your request in the list of things to be done in future ODS/DIAD releases. It is a 3 system impact across two development portfolios with different release schedules but I have talked with all the impacted systems and this is doable.

Okay I can't just let this go. We are talking about Dilli 's suggestion about the people who take the calls putting in the information about the service level on the package to be picked up , right? Seems unbelievably simple to me.

And you are saying they are going to prioritize the list of things to be done in the future ODS/DIAD releases.

I seriously need to learn to talk like this so when they ask me to pick up an on-call , I can respond that I am currently analyzing the data and prioritizing their request.

What difference does the frequency of NDA to 2nd Day air have to do with it?
 

Not IN Trace

Well-Known Member
Everyone is missing the point of this new service...the whole thing was designed so the drunks can get there wine on the first day and the 50 year old dude can get his Viagra ASAP....now there is no delay in getting your old lady drunk and having sexy time.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
Does anyone remember when they introduced "Remote Residential"? This seems like it will save about as much money...none

Rural remote made a lot of sense and would have worked had they left it up to the drivers to make the decisions. I had a country run at the time with a lot of small towns. There was one very small town that was 5 miles each way from the nearest town, which is home to a prison. Most of the people in the very small town work in the prison. I would usually get one or two pkgs per day for the very small town which I could normally indirect in the prison town. Those that I couldn't I would remote untiil I had enough to justify driving down there.

The problem came when mgt decided to use rural remote as a dispatch tool and would put entire towns under the belt. We would not be allowed to go through those packages to see which ones we could get rid of without going to that town.

The money savings was there.

The money savings with MyChoice will be in not having to make multiple attempts. These savings may be negated by the additional miles and OT.
 

RockdaleEddie

Optimized
Rural remote made a lot of sense and would have worked had they left it up to the drivers to make the decisions. I had a country run at the time with a lot of small towns. There was one very small town that was 5 miles each way from the nearest town, which is home to a prison. Most of the people in the very small town work in the prison. I would usually get one or two pkgs per day for the very small town which I could normally indirect in the prison town. Those that I couldn't I would remote untiil I had enough to justify driving down there.

The problem came when mgt decided to use rural remote as a dispatch tool and would put entire towns under the belt. We would not be allowed to go through those packages to see which ones we could get rid of without going to that town.

The money savings was there.

The money savings with MyChoice will be in not having to make multiple attempts. These savings may be negated by the additional miles and OT.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
Okay I can't just let this go. We are talking about Dilli 's suggestion about the people who take the calls putting in the information about the service level on the package to be picked up , right? Seems unbelievably simple to me.

And you are saying they are going to prioritize the list of things to be done in the future ODS/DIAD releases.

I seriously need to learn to talk like this so when they ask me to pick up an on-call , I can respond that I am currently analyzing the data and prioritizing their request.

What difference does the frequency of NDA to 2nd Day air have to do with it?

None really, but you need to remember that there is an entire, bloated layer of IE management who must complicate the uncomplicated and micromanage the meaningless in order to justify their place at the corporate trough. No problem can ever be solved until they have analyzed it, measured it, quantified it, and spent 4 or 5 years having meetings and exchanging e-mails about it. Quick, simple and logical solutions to problems pose a threat to their job security that they must fight at all costs.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
None really, but you need to remember that there is an entire, bloated layer of IE management who must complicate the uncomplicated and micromanage the meaningless in order to justify their place at the corporate trough. No problem can ever be solved until they have analyzed it, measured it, quantified it, and spent 4 or 5 years having meetings and exchanging e-mails about it. Quick, simple and logical solutions to problems pose a threat to their job security that they must fight at all costs.

May I suggest you stick to the things you know something about such as the driver position since all you do is expose your ignorance of the processes and steps involved in the software development of complex systems across multiple platforms.

Everything looks simple to the ignorant and uninvolved.
 

Re-Raise

Well-Known Member
May I suggest you stick to the things you know something about such as the driver position since all you do is expose your ignorance of the processes and steps involved in the software development of complex systems across multiple platforms.

Everything looks simple to the ignorant and uninvolved.

I could use the same answer for for the view from the office, everything looks simple when we the drivers have to implement it.
We don't talk about things, we do them.

Hopefully you aren't calling Sober or me ignorant. I have read enough of his posts to rank his intelligence above yours, and I am pretty comfortable with my own ability to comprehend things.

They include the name and contact number for on- calls now but they can't ask if it is a UPS package and what the service level is?
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
Rural remote made a lot of sense and would have worked had they left it up to the drivers to make the decisions. I had a country run at the time with a lot of small towns. There was one very small town that was 5 miles each way from the nearest town, which is home to a prison. Most of the people in the very small town work in the prison. I would usually get one or two pkgs per day for the very small town which I could normally indirect in the prison town. Those that I couldn't I would remote untiil I had enough to justify driving down there.

The problem came when mgt decided to use rural remote as a dispatch tool and would put entire towns under the belt. We would not be allowed to go through those packages to see which ones we could get rid of without going to that town.

The money savings was there.

The money savings with MyChoice will be in not having to make multiple attempts. These savings may be negated by the additional miles and OT.

I can tell you that in my building rural remote was seriously abused by a lot of drivers. Guys would bring back half their routes on Friday, or just any old day that they wanted to get done early. On days they didn't have anything to do or they just wanted the OT they would stay out and run everything. Even before management stepped in and took total control it was pretty clear that the program wasn't working the way it was intended.
In hindsight it was a poor decision and most of us were glad to see it go away.
 

The Other Side

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I sat in on a planning meeting with my Division Manager and center operators and I about started laughing when My Choice planning came up. The DM explained that our HUB averages between 850 and 950 send agains everyday and that the plan was that MY CHOICE would CUT the send agains by 50% and that would eliminate 2.5 cars from the road each month.

He went on to explain how the reroutes to the UPS store would allow them to cut cars from the road. I informed him that his "numbers" and plan were "out of whack" and he asked why???

I asked him how he expected to gain a 50% decrease from MY CHOICE when 75% of our send agains are prohibitied from being re routed to the UPS store? He asked me to explain and I was shocked that HE and the OPERATORS did not know about the prohibited packages that cannot be sent to the UPS store.

( adult signature required, COD's, Hazardous materials, HIGH values over 5K, alcohol, guns, damages )

They were under the impression that all packages could be sent to the UPS store and thats just not true. I presented them with the official UPS store contract with UPS outlining what can and cant be sent to the UPS store and they were all confused.

If all that is left is packages that could be DR'd anyway, how does he get to a 50% reduction in send agains?

Silly math by some IE engineer without a clue on the business...

The entire plan that was outlined called for :

1) 50% reduction in send agains eliminating 2.5 cars from the road
2) 21 more stops on every car eliminating 3.5 cars from the road
3) 40 christmas helpers begining in Nov eliminating 4 cars from the road

Thats 10 cars that UPS wants to eliminate from the road utilizing silly programs that are ridiculous and impact service.

What is clear is that UPS is "TESTING" the rerouting of packages to the UPS store to see the impact on cars on road. If successful, an expanded program to send all send agains to the UPS store or local mailing center will be created until there are NO send agains in the package cars. That way, 10% of the cars could be cut from the road. This seems to be the goal vs providing the customers with delivery options.

MY CHOICE is the creation of an IE GEEK with too much time on his hands. Im guessing that by the middle of next year, the program will be changed when it cause more trouble than its worth.

Peace.
 

The Other Side

Well-Known Troll
Troll
May I suggest you stick to the things you know something about such as the driver position since all you do is expose your ignorance of the processes and steps involved in the software development of complex systems across multiple platforms.

Everything looks simple to the ignorant and uninvolved.

This should cover the entire IE department.

Peace.
 

raceanoncr

Well-Known Member
I sat in on a planning meeting with my Division Manager and center operators He went on to explain how the reroutes to the UPS store would allow them to cut cars from the road. I informed him that his "numbers" and plan were "out of whack" and he asked why???

I asked him how he expected to gain a 50% decrease from MY CHOICE when 75% of our send agains are prohibitied from being re routed to the UPS store? He asked me to explain and I was shocked that HE and the OPERATORS did not know about the prohibited packages that cannot be sent to the UPS store.

MY CHOICE is the creation of an IE GEEK with too much time on his hands. Im guessing that by the middle of next year, the program will be changed when it cause more trouble than its worth.

Then I had to cut the meeting short and tell them all to go home because I had another meeting with Bill Gates. He wanted to know how to start a computer company or something like that and he heard I knew everything about everything and that I was his girl.

I was sorry, though, that I had to tell Warren Buffet that he was on hold for today because I had to meet with Chavez after Gates. Chavez just wanted to know how to be more anti-American and he heard I was his girl. So, there you go! Perseverence pays off!

Keep making dumb, childish statements like me and you're the darling of the universe!

Peace.

Wow! I guess you REALLY ARE impotent! Keep up the good work, Jane.
 

pretzel_man

Well-Known Member
I sat in on a planning meeting with my Division Manager and center operators and I about started laughing when My Choice planning came up. The DM explained that our HUB averages between 850 and 950 send agains everyday and that the plan was that MY CHOICE would CUT the send agains by 50% and that would eliminate 2.5 cars from the road each month.

He went on to explain how the reroutes to the UPS store would allow them to cut cars from the road. I informed him that his "numbers" and plan were "out of whack" and he asked why???

I asked him how he expected to gain a 50% decrease from MY CHOICE when 75% of our send agains are prohibitied from being re routed to the UPS store? He asked me to explain and I was shocked that HE and the OPERATORS did not know about the prohibited packages that cannot be sent to the UPS store.

( adult signature required, COD's, Hazardous materials, HIGH values over 5K, alcohol, guns, damages )

They were under the impression that all packages could be sent to the UPS store and thats just not true. I presented them with the official UPS store contract with UPS outlining what can and cant be sent to the UPS store and they were all confused.

If all that is left is packages that could be DR'd anyway, how does he get to a 50% reduction in send agains?

Silly math by some IE engineer without a clue on the business...

The entire plan that was outlined called for :

1) 50% reduction in send agains eliminating 2.5 cars from the road
2) 21 more stops on every car eliminating 3.5 cars from the road
3) 40 christmas helpers begining in Nov eliminating 4 cars from the road

Thats 10 cars that UPS wants to eliminate from the road utilizing silly programs that are ridiculous and impact service.

What is clear is that UPS is "TESTING" the rerouting of packages to the UPS store to see the impact on cars on road. If successful, an expanded program to send all send agains to the UPS store or local mailing center will be created until there are NO send agains in the package cars. That way, 10% of the cars could be cut from the road. This seems to be the goal vs providing the customers with delivery options.

MY CHOICE is the creation of an IE GEEK with too much time on his hands. Im guessing that by the middle of next year, the program will be changed when it cause more trouble than its worth.

Peace.

Are you sure he / she was talking about MyChoice???

IF that is what your division manager said about MyChoice, he / she is very wrong....

The goals were NEVER explained to us like that...... The explanation you heard is NOT part of the plan.
 

raceanoncr

Well-Known Member
Are you sure he / she was talking about MyChoice???

IF that is what your division manager said about MyChoice, he / she is very wrong....

The goals were NEVER explained to us like that...... The explanation you heard is NOT part of the plan.

pretzel man, don't EVER argue with Jane! You ain't NEVER gonna get a straight answer to your questions, let alone, ANY answers! Jane knows EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING and don't even QUESTION her "awethoriTIE". Got it?
 

brownmonster

Man of Great Wisdom
We have one UPS store in our Center. I'm prettty sure customers aren't going to be fond of driving up to an hour each way to pickup a package from a DELIVERY company.
 
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