Upstate and Western New York.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by MuricaMan01, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    So you must be in 449? Unfortunately, the rest of us will no longer receive holiday pay that day. Kind of odd since it is same supplement- but glad you folks kept it. Eventually their will be no days off.
     
  2. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Easy tough guy- some full-timers went through same thing you are going through. Many realize the disparities. But think whatever you want to.
     
  3. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Don't forget the three-day-a-week part-time deal...
     
  4. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Why do you hate the people that once paid your way?
     
  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    You lost holiday pay on Black Friday while virtually everyone else nationwide kept it?


    Your negotiators suck.
     
  6. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Most of us did. One local kept it. But they still operate that day- and it is not "voluntary". (Know what I mean?) lol
     
  7. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    There will never be a 50% turnout. Pters are over 50% and do not vote. A vote anywhere would need near 100 driver turnout plus a significant pt vote. Will never happen. The rule is bs.
     
  8. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of own destiny

    The leaders are weak for the membership. Thanks for pointing that out
     
  9. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of own destiny

    Who cares. The ones who did vote. Gets to decide. If you don't vote you can't complain when others sent in their votes. The UNION just took that away from everyone. Now they can just write anything up. Send it out. Then say here is the new contract. The UNION sold out for the millions of UPS cash to survive. Democracy is no more for membership. Watch. Other unions will follow suit. The teamsters set up president for other I kind to tag on to.
     
  10. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    I am
     
  11. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    The rest of our locals got one extra rover for it. With our arbitration decision, it was worth 2 to us. Since they didn't want to give us 2, we kept it as a holiday.
     
  12. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    @BigUnionGuy This is the issue, right here. Should be a majority rules. If you want something changed then vote. You don't vote, can't complain what those who did take the time to form an opinion and voted choose.

    The current system is set up for the IBT president to have the final call, not those who voted. That is wrong in my opinion.
     
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  13. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    Yeah, that too. The gift that keeps on giving
     
  14. Str8right72

    Str8right72 New Member

    I believe the term “the fix is in” was used at some point along the way during this whole fiasco. This post explains what that means.
     
  15. rod

    rod retired and happy


     
  16. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    clam chowder :censored2:ers
     
  17. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Exactly. It should be worth 2 for anyone that got double time previously.
     
  18. cachmeifucan

    cachmeifucan Well-Known Member

    We have to change the rules if we don't like them. Now the people in national know the rules if they don't vote they eat crow. I hate it but sometimes it has to get worse before it gets better. National was only a few thousand vote short of 50%. I don't blame pters it's the full time employee that should vote 100% and educate fellow employees. Most full-time employees eat good and make great money.
     
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  19. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Exactly what I thought when I saw you were posting in it. :wink-very:
     
  20. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    And it is set up that way for a reason.

    We elected to join the IBT and to have them represent us and negotiate a contract on our behalf. This is why they represent us. We asked them to.

    They should negotiate the best contract that they think they can get, for our benefit.

    Whether this happened this time is up for debate, but the rules on voting are in place to keep a minority of the voting membership from overruling the IBT, who we elected to bargain for us.

    If we don't like what they negotiated for us, then vote them, or the whole Union, out, and put someone, or something in place, that will represent us.

    I doubt we can get the votes for that, though.