VOTE NO ON THe CONTRACT!

stink219

Well-Known Member
I'm voting yes

Everybody on here knows this. Why do you keep repeating yourself?
Realclown1, everyone on here knows your a dik yet you keep repeating yourself. Your just pissed because 407 voices what the majority is thinking. Yes, majority!! I don't deny that most people on BC will vote NO, but that is a common for people to gripe. It doesn't reflect the majority. If BC polls were a reflection, Sandy Pope would have won the GP spot. Instead she came dead balls last!!
Now I'm sure you'll rebut with something that sounds like this,"blah blah blah old guard blah blah blah cheerleader blah blah blah vote no blah blah blah 407 blah blah blah TDU blah blah blah."
 

oldupsman

Well-Known Member
Realclown1, everyone on here knows your a dik yet you keep repeating yourself. Your just pissed because 407 voices what the majority is thinking. Yes, majority!! I don't deny that most people on BC will vote NO, but that is a common for people to gripe. It doesn't reflect the majority. If BC polls were a reflection, Sandy Pope would have won the GP spot. Instead she came dead balls last!!
Now I'm sure you'll rebut with something that sounds like this,"blah blah blah old guard blah blah blah cheerleader blah blah blah vote no blah blah blah 407 blah blah blah TDU blah blah blah."

I do not accept your premise of what the majority is thinking any more than then the premise that the east coast is on board.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Realclown1, everyone on here knows your a dik yet you keep repeating yourself. Your just pissed because 407 voices what the majority is thinking. Yes, majority!! I don't deny that most people on BC will vote NO, but that is a common for people to gripe. It doesn't reflect the majority. If BC polls were a reflection, Sandy Pope would have won the GP spot. Instead she came dead balls last!!
Now I'm sure you'll rebut with something that sounds like this,"blah blah blah old guard blah blah blah cheerleader blah blah blah vote no blah blah blah 407 blah blah blah TDU blah blah blah."

Dude the last contract passed with with about 65% of the 70,000 votes counted. My local for example had no one really speaking out about the TA back then. I actually felt a little sorry for our e-board this time. Speaker after speaker gave them the riot act.
I am not sure if this will pass anymore. Looking at the vote count in the last election (thanks again TDU) alot of locals voted against it. This time I will guarantee more will vote against it. It will be closer, no matter which way it goes.
And by the way, the majority on BC agree with me, vote this TA down.
 
A

anonymous6

Guest
you are probably right with your majority comment. a majority only means 51%. I think it's going to be very close. somewhere in the fifties. that will scare Hoffa pretty good if the opposition can find a viable opponent in the next couple years.
 

DON CUMMINGS

Active Member
Re: VOTE NO

Your Voice. Your Vote. Your Contract.​
Copies of the changes to the both the National Master Agreement and Central Region Supplement will be mailed to your home with your ballot. Please take the time to read these contracts in detail. Below, you’ll find the reasons why your stewards, agents and Executive Board are recommending a NO vote:​
PROPOSED NATIONAL MASTER AGREEMENTArticle 6 Sec. 1:​
This language may not be broad enough to protect employees being forced to sign documents.​
Article 6 Sec. 6:​
This change does not provide strong enough language to protect members against the Company’s advanced technology.​
Article 8 Sec. 1:​
This language affects small locals and could discourage the pursuit of important grievances.​
Article 14 Sec. 1:​
This article fails to define if an employee would befound dishonest if they do not report a change inmedical status to the Company.​
Article 14 Sec. 3:​
This language is EXTREMELY detrimental to the membership. After three years the Company canfire an employee if they do not return from an on/off the job injury.​
Article 17:​
The increase in shortage thresholds for payroll errors is concessionary.
Article 18 Sec. 8.1:​
This article gives UPS sole discretion to not allownon-driving employees to use their cell phones.​
Article 22 Sec. 3:​
Full time jobs are not protectedin this language.Further, any newly created full-time positions can have a 1.5 hour gap within their shift(s)
Article 22 Sec. 5:​
The wage increases for part-timeworkers are needlessly less than the current 2008-2013 agreement. Further, the starting wage amounts to only a $.63 increase over the life of the agreement. This wage increase still subjects UPSpart-time workers to poverty wages.
Article 26 Sec. 2:​
The change could result in the depletion of Feederwork.​
Article 26 Sec. 4:​
The Surepost language does not go far enough.Surepost will continue be problematic.​
Article 29 Sec. 1:​
This could be problematic for some members. TheCompany can now change the employee’s shift ifthey must miss two days for one day of jury duty.​
Article 34 Sec. 1:​
The pension rates contained in these changes only increase by $5.00 in the last year of the contract.​
Article 34 Sec. 1(k).5/6:​
The Summary Plan Description has not been provided, therefore we do not have the full information needed for the membership to make afully informed decision.​
Article 37 Sec. 1:​
This article does nothing to address harassment issues and will limit a member’s ability to file labor charges.​
Article 37 Sec. 1(c,d)​
This language does not go far enough to fix 9.5issues. Further, it excludes drivers with less thanfour years of service.​
Article 43 Sec. 2:​
Using Microsoft Streets and Trips could result in lessmilage pay for drivers.​
Article 34 Sec. 4:​
Your entire raise can now be taken from your payand put toward your healthcare.​
Article 41 Sec. 2:​
The four-year wage progression is unreasonable for new full-time employees.​
PROPOSED CENTRAL REGION SUPPLEMENTArticle 1 Sec. 1:​
This concessionary change is bad for newly-hired workers.​
Article 3 Sec. 2:​
This could be very harmful to the membership,resulting in job loss to anyone injured in an on thejob or off the job injury.​
Article 3 Sec. 19:​
This is bad for part-timers. This may not only keep members from obtaining full-time, this creates a lower wage temporary package car driver.​
Article 5 Sec. 3:​
It is the position of Local 89 that we have a right tostrike when it is legal and necessary. Further complicating this with approval from the IBT is unreasonable when our members’ rights and livelihoods are in danger.​
Article 16:​
While this language is beneficial to full-time members it has not addressed the part-timeemployee’s ability to split vacation weeks.​
Article 17(d):​
This language is beneficial in the Ground System,but very harmful in the Air District. This would result​
in termination for almost any contact with an aircraft.
 
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UPS Preloader

Well-Known Member
According to TDU, here are the approximate results of the 2007 vote. If you take a look you'll see some locals with a big discrepancy between yes and no votes. These should be some of the areas we try to focus on and convert some votes.

UPS Vote Count Results
The vote count figures below are preliminary. Some numbers will be adjusted in the final, official tally.
Southern Supplement Results
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
79
987
348
974
358
217
74
50
72
51
270
274
281
274
283
373
182
96
183
94
385
664
99
653
107
402
77
41
78
40
480
398
187
367
219
512
429
107
423
114
516
188
149
183
152
519
287
383
270
399
568
127
57
125
58
577
212
15
206
19
612
456
37
456
37
657
469
192
451
207
667
254
96
242
105
728
857
518
836
532
745
52
37
49
41
767
1139
275
1105
302
769
870
101
778
138
878
249
73
246
74
886
244
146
236
153
891
477
110
474
112
988
740
291
726
300
991
310
36
310
36
TOTAL
10,016
3,725
9,815
3,931

Western Supplement Results
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
2
184
60
188
56
38
51
18
51
18
58
107
15
109
13
63
766
433
771
426
104
868
59
868
59
162
416
205
437
183
174
468
398
499
368
186
133
17
133
16
190
109
20
108
20
206
33
71
48
56
222
479
53
481
47
231
65
16
68
12
252
50
16
52
13
313
58
17
58
17
324
66
28
69
25
381
78
4
77
5
396
1255
678
1267
657
481
27
4
26
5
483
124
29
123
30
492
305
60
300
64
495
45
17
44
18
542
453
75
453
74
572
192
10
193
11
589
67
5
69
3
631
176
69
168
65
670
56
19
56
18
690
188
45
197
35
760
79
5
80
5
839
35
6
38
4
952
459
75
458
74
959
88
23
-
-
962
171
30
176
25
983
52
1
52
1
996
71
34
-
-
TOTAL
7,774
2,615
7,717
2,423



Northern California Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
70
152
93
154
87
87
44
8
43
9
137
164
14
163
16
150
314
275
330
258
278
103
508
96
514
287
160
97
156
101
315
150
236
148
235
386
48
31
48
31
431
127
18
128
18
439
105
27
105
27
490
20
59
22
56
533
231
26
215
19
624
120
49
120
49
665
9
17
9
17
856
66
10
60
10
890
19
58
20
57
912
17
36
16
36
948
49
8
48
8
TOTAL
1,898
1,570
1,881
1,547

Central Pennsylvania Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
229
75
80
69
86
401
145
66
151
60
429
95
72
93
76
764
152
92
152
92
771
189
78
193
73
773
99
220
102
220
776
230
665
234
662
TOTAL
985
1,273
994
1,269

Local 177 Supplement (New Jersey)
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
177
1,955
1,072
1,945
1,057
Mechanics
76
27
76
27

Local 804 Supplement (Metro New York)
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
804
802
2,307
895
2,203



Atlantic Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
22
164
37
163
37
29
199
56
187
61
61
220
188
215
194
71
371
135
373
143
171
167
128
160
134
175
291
92
287
95
322
209
134
199
143
355
386
282
375
288
391
905
297
890
311
453
22
26
22
26
505
72
10
71
10
509
651
170
635
187
639
248
737
246
738
697
34
10
34
10
822
120
47
119
48
992
196
60
190
65
TOTAL
4,255
2,409
4,166
2,490

Local 623 Supplement (Philadelphia)
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
623
655
366
649
360

Metro Philly Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
326
112
81
123
63
331
63
23
63
22
384
458
368
464
358
676
358
124
356
126
TOTAL
991
596
1,006
569

New England Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
25
880
320
871
317
42
90
42
94
38
59
86
97
87
95
170
137
398
143
392
191
205
99
202
98
251
230
191
236
184
340
378
91
352
117
404
139
76
135
76
443
60
62
62
60
493
86
52
88
50
597
139
95
115
118
633
386
157
392
148
653
119
82
129
75
671
261
217
268
208
677
125
181
143
162
TOTAL
3,321
2,160
3,317
2,138

Upstate New York Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
118
213
40
210
42
182
55
20
53
22
264
39
13
41
11
294
335
153
333
156
317
136
392
182
345
449
265
149
267
146
529
34
9
38
5
687
78
39
79
36
693
68
47
67
47
TOTAL
1,223
862
1,270
810

Western Pennsylvania Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
30
207
634
167
674
110
224
51
222
51
249
311
156
308
154
261
59
53
60
61
397
45
32
44
34
491
41
6
41
6
538
92
33
87
37
585
51
7
50
8
TOTAL
1,030
972
979
1,025

Local 926 Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
926
3
15
9
9

Central Region Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
7
176
32
172
36
17
524
94
511
106
20
379
177
366
189
40
64
29
66
24
41
424
500
420
501
89
1,664
760
1,647
772
90
256
134
256
133
92
131
55
98
87
100
251
346
244
351
120
82
42
83
41
135
490
433
485
438
164
37
34
39
32
200
8
2
7
3
215
30
47
30
47
236
15
75
15
79
238
347
99
342
103
243
788
268
799
260
245
175
14
172
17
332
82
10
83
9
339
61
5
61
5
344
1,273
599
1,272
594
346
139
13
131
17
348
146
45
143
48
377
103
28
103
28
406
448
84
441
92
407
499
265
498
265
413
438
191
431
196
421
37
18
39
16
455
906
97
903
99
486
268
41
266
43
554
412
419
412
419
580
130
12
131
12
618
1
0
1
0
637
121
16
120
17
638
1,403
244
1,409
237
651
290
212
273
225
688
640
958
644
954
696
300
22
297
25
749
301
39
30
38
795
171
55
172
54
823
66
7
65
8
908
86
16
88
14
957
172
142
172
143
964
35
17
35
17
TOTAL
14,369
6,696
13,972
6,794

Local 901 Supplement (Puerto Rico)
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
901
65
46
65
46

UPS Cartage Services, Inc. Supplement
Local
National Agreement
Supplement
Yes
No
Yes
No
17
14
2
14
2
25
17
4
17
4
41
8
0
8
0
70
7
0
7
0
71
16
0
16
0
117
4
12
3
13
135
12
1
12
1
162
16
0
16
0
222
12
0
12
0
229
1
0
1
0
294
9
0
9
0
295
34
1
34
1
317
4
0
4
0
340
15
0
15
0
344
9
1
9
1
385
27
1
28
1
391
10
0
10
0
406
10
0
10
0
407
15
2
14
3
413
8
0
8
0
470
6
12
6
12
480
34
19
33
21
500
14
3
14
3
509
6
0
6
0
519
2
0
2
0
542
9
1
9
1
549
2
0
2
0
560
18
4
18
4
597
2
0
2
0
600
4
0
4
0
638
17
1
17
1
657
16
0
16
0
667
6
0
6
0
670
0
0
0
0
671
7
0
7
0
688
3
0
3
0
710
11
2
11
2
728
6
35
5
37
745
79
2
78
3
769
2
5
2
5
776
4
12
4
12
822
1
0
1
0
851
17
1
17
1
901
1
0
1
0
957
9
0
9
0
986
54
40
54
40
988
12
3
11
4
TOTAL
590
164
585
172
 
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