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If we take out 22.4 altogether, who is delivering on Saturday then? Not wanting to cause Confrontation, what is the solution?
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BakerMayfield2018
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Fair enough. Good idea.
BakerMayfield2018
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They will deliver the Saturdays. The irregulars and the air. And as @2033 said. Be a separate classification
That's not my shirt, I went to a retirement party today and my shop steward was wearing that. I did already vote no on this sellout piece of garbage, so did my buddy that just retired.
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So will this stop routes from being cut on Mondays?
BakerMayfield2018
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Why you being a smart ass.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
hopefully the retirement of that t-shirt designer
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Ups stated they will deliver on Saturday and Sundays to keep up with Amazon and USPS, so it seems the Monday deal is going to happen regardless.
BakerMayfield2018
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I’m sure if work isn’t held back I will have at least 8 hours of work to go and deliver my route and do my pickups on Monday. Once again I say , as long as volume isn’t being held back , which they are doing daily.
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Oh I agree, they have been holding back volume for the last month pretending we are losing business
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zubenelgenubi
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New ground drivers. Sorry, this has all been gone over before, but you seem to be the first vote yes person actually interested in another view. Denis T asserted that 22.4 was created in response to the complaints from drivers about working weekends. No one seems to have or be willing to share information about how many people actually complained, and what they were actually complaining about.
The people on this forum who complained about weekends were complaining about how poorly operations were managed, the fact that they bid a m-friend schedule but were forced onto t-s after the last contract was ratified, and that Monday routes were being slashed as a result of Saturday operations. No one said they wanted to work weekends for $6 an hour less, but that was the solution the union came up with.
The counterargument to that is that no one is forcing anyone to bid on 22.4, which is valid. But I guarantee some people will feel they don't have a choice but to bid 22.4 if they eventually want to go ground driver. 22.4s can be hired from outside the union, even if ground drivers wouldn't be. What is unclear is whether a 22.4 off the street hire would have first crack at ground driving over part timers with more building seniority. Some supplementals might be clear that would not happen, others not so clear. If you were a part timer looking to go full time driver, would you rather do it on the weekends as a full ground driver, or as a 22.4? I think the answer to that is clear.
zubenelgenubi
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I brought up this possibility, and now I'm apparently Alex Jones, a highly optimistic Alex Jones.
BakerMayfield2018
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Just hope the future generation of drivers decide not to get rid of the pension and go to a 401k match because its best for them and their families. just sayin'
1989
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If you are in a weak local you won’t get paid. If you are in a string one you will be paid 40 hours that week
BakerMayfield2018
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Not good enough.
BakerMayfield2018
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That would be catastrophic
1989
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The actual wording was “if it’s over 80 degrees outside, a feeder driver could lose half their weight. “
BakerMayfield2018
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Half their weight of what exactly? Their ice cream ??
