zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
A new wide-eyed optimist popping up every day telling us how we got it wrong and the contract is actually great. The vote must not be going the way the union wants.
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Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.
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silenze
Lunch is the best part of the day
They are creating a lower paid driving job with no overtime protection.
With no true cap on the amount of hybrid drivers allowed.
the Package Division Director and UPS President of Labor Relations shall be allowed to adjust the limit based on demonstrated service need.
Vote No.
Don't wait 5 years to fix these concessions
With no true cap on the amount of hybrid drivers allowed.
the Package Division Director and UPS President of Labor Relations shall be allowed to adjust the limit based on demonstrated service need.
Vote No.
Don't wait 5 years to fix these concessions
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
I totally agree. I just don't understand how people think like that, or say it with a straight face. It is so obvious that it shouldn't even need to be said that you need to pass a master on its merits and the supplementals are secondary. But the people who think passing a garbage master is ok because of their supplementals? The depth of their illogic is astonishing. It's a downward spiral, we'll be chasing our tails right to rock bottom if we don't wake up.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
There will be no fixing. Once they're there, it's over. The next contract they'll be telling us that it's only 50% of drivers that will be 22.4, it's no big deal. In ten years they'll be saying, "what's a ground driver?"
Big Package
Handler
I cleared out Firefox after visiting this site. While browsing a local movie theater, this ad popped up.
"IN YOUR AREA: Amazon Package Handler and Warehouse. Now hiring, $17/hr may include hourly bonuses. Benefits options available after first 90 days. $500 sign-on bonus."
And guess what? I searched my zip code and they have multiple positions available. I can apply for this job across multiple job posting platforms.
How can someone in need of work turn this down in favor of UPS?
10.50 to 17 is a huge difference. Proposed article 22.4's will be overworked, underpaid positions worse than what Amazon and FedEx are already doing today.
What incentive exists, today, to join UPS over AMZ/FDX? The lucky 22.4's will still be making less than jobs that exist today at competitors.
What incentive exists to join UPS if article 22.4's are a reality?
"IN YOUR AREA: Amazon Package Handler and Warehouse. Now hiring, $17/hr may include hourly bonuses. Benefits options available after first 90 days. $500 sign-on bonus."
And guess what? I searched my zip code and they have multiple positions available. I can apply for this job across multiple job posting platforms.
How can someone in need of work turn this down in favor of UPS?
10.50 to 17 is a huge difference. Proposed article 22.4's will be overworked, underpaid positions worse than what Amazon and FedEx are already doing today.
What incentive exists, today, to join UPS over AMZ/FDX? The lucky 22.4's will still be making less than jobs that exist today at competitors.
What incentive exists to join UPS if article 22.4's are a reality?
Non sequitur
Well-Known Member
Ups 22.4 is better. No pay healthcare and a pension. The only thing better with the competition is the stress level. Which might be a good consideration for quality of life. It's the difference between choosing a job or career.
Future bigger pay checks and benefits. What does Amazon offer? OensiPe, paid time off, healthcare? A chance to make 100k??
Amazon has benefits, according to the original post. And nobody counts pension because nobody retires from a part-time job. It's a stepping stone. I've never met one person who would rather have more pension contributions and less wages for a part-time position. It's wasted money.
I feel the same way. Whatever money is being contributed to the pension on my behalf, I'd rather just have added to my wages. Heck, they don't even have to give me all of it--I'll take half.
Non sequitur
Well-Known Member
It's your choice. Just know of FedEx drivers coming over because of future earnings and healthcare.
You may feel different about that later in life.
Just remember the money they put into your pension you arwnar paying any Federal,state,local, social security or medicare taxes on that money
1989
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Then RPCDs will continue to work the preload and local sort?
So you already know how the shifts will be broken up? What about a shift of air driving the ground driving? What about EAM driving and then a a 12 hour ground shift? Stop limiting your mind in to hoping what those jobs can be. Think of how UPS can bastardize them.
No I won't. This a part-time job. I'm using it while I pursue my current goals, and then I'll move on to something better. I don't need money being contributed to a fund that won't have any money in it anyway by the time I'm old enough to collect.
If I were FT, it would be a different story. Part-time pensions do not make sense. The money could be better spent.
If you have 5 years in...you will get some kind of a pension or maybe a buyout offer after you separate from employment.
I'm talking about the 22.4
Or the money won't be there when it's time to collect.
I don't know what to tell you. I really don't.
Non sequitur
Well-Known Member
Then why are you posting here. UPS is a big company I'm sure they can figure it out
Taylor may have ruined our chance to make 100k
