Originally when the language was written it was 10 years. This was agreed to. With 5 years going by there is only 5 years left. If you want an explanation what you should really do is google Teamsters local 344 and call their local and ask for explanations of this. Obviously this is where he came up with it. What is also interesting is that 344 has their own pens and health and welfare funds. Seriously google the number and call the local and ask them to explain it. This would be the right thing to do from my perspective.
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Whatbrownwontdoforyou
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While I applaud a 4 year driver getting involved in the contract negotiations and standing up for what he believes in,his efforts would be much more appreciated fighting ups on the shop floor with the contract we have like most stewards do everyday at ups.....right now in my eyes he's just another complaining internet blowhard and his 5 min of internet fame will pass
Because he doesn’t have enough years under his belt? Why? The Contract text is laid out for all to see. And having more time on the job doesn’t necessarily make one a better reader or critical thinker.
Those are skills that won’t typically come around later if they weren’t already present on day 1 of the job.
The Company will use it as massive leverage in the 2023 Contract negotiations. Probably to push strongly for an even greater dilution of full time wages and protections.
The Union already gave away enough in the 2018 Contract. Did it really need to also agree to simultaneous Contract and pension negotiations 5 years from now?
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
The hell you don't hypocrite!
The "commentary" is an interpretation of what IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN! YOU need to get your damn facts straight BUG! If you don't like the interpretation FIX THE DAMN WORDING OF THE CONTRACT PROPOSAL! You have no right complaining about someone trying to fix something, in a constructive way, which was screwed up by those who are tasked to, "represent our best interests" and who are paid by us!
The vote will be a direct result of how well the company and the Union can conspire together to sell this piece of
to those votes which will actually be counted! You want to toss out inflammatory rhetoric expect it to be returned! Those in glass houses.......Wow BUG, you have hit a new low. I 1/2 expect you to claim all the no votes will be illegal voters in your next post! I honestly think its past time you retire and let new leadership drive the union forward because from where I am sitting you and your kind are just dragging us down! "Seniority" does not entitle you to belittle others on the soul grounds they haven't been around as long as you have! My grandfather did that and we had to put his ass in a nursing home!
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
The hell you don't hypocrite!
The "commentary" is an interpretation of what IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN! YOU need to get your damn facts straight BUG! If you don't like the interpretation FIX THE DAMN WORDING OF THE CONTRACT PROPOSAL! You have no right complaining about someone trying to fix something, in a constructive way, which was screwed up by those who are tasked to, "represent our best interests" and who are paid by us!
The vote will be a direct result of how well the company and the Union can conspire together to sell this piece of
Wow BUG, you have hit a new low. I 1/2 expect you to claim all the no votes will be illegal voters in your next post! I honestly think its past time you retire and let new leadership drive the union forward because from where I am sitting you and your kind are just dragging us down! "Seniority" does not entitle you to belittle others on the soul grounds they haven't been around as long as you have! My grandfather did that and we had to put his ass in a nursing home!
Thanks....
For beholding all my points.
-Bug-
When the language was initially agreed to it was for ten years. The first 5 years were struck out. If you agree to something like this you can’t add five years every contract. I might be wrong but that’s what it looks like to me. Back in 1997 in my opinion was the time to start our own ups IBT Pension fund. This could have helped us all out. That obviously didn’t happen. We waited till 2007 to fix the Pension. And that was just the Central Region. I believe they agreed to a 10 year time cram after this where ups could not ask to do the same thing. I am no Pension expert, but I believe there was another deal somewhere else in new York or in the east.
DumbTruckDriver
Allergic to cardboard.
I would have no problem with anyone who smokes to have to pay extra.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
He’s obviously management. His stance that management “gives up so we can have” is not correct. We have these things because of collective bargaining. End of story.
Ancient Alien
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Jake worked there 2-weeks with a week of training/classes and 3-days in the box. What his mind set would be like if he went 26-years?
Can you imagine? Think Jake G. 46-years old at UPS.
The point I was trying to make is that every 5 years UPS takes something away from management in order to give us more. Reread my post.
I’m the damn guy that tried to advise you on your brother. I’m definitely not management. UPS cuts managements pension healthcare and other things so that our union brothers and sisters get more. I actually love this.
DumbTruckDriver
Allergic to cardboard.
No need to reread your post. I cherry picked what I wanted out of it. @MyTripisCut is correct though.
We as Teamsters don’t have to worry about getting charged extra for smoking. We are covered and management would have been covered as well if the would have stayed with the Teamsters. It’s their bed now. Let them lie in it.
Scoot
Well-Known Member
Thank you for the explanation. It does make sense. Still concerning to know we will be negotiating pensions with the contract next time around.
sandwich
The resident gearhead
What was the purpose of changing that language.
Why don't you tell us so the opinions stop.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
What about for every pound you're overweight?
What about if you eat fast food?
What about if you have a rural route and eat dust all day?
It may sound ok because you don't smoke but it's a Pandora's box.
PASinterference
Yes, I know I'm working late.
While bringing in record profits. It's called greed. Management has no choice but to take it up the tailpipe. Have you ever heard a low level mgmt person snap on a conference call while being raked over the coals? One quick phone call and they become silent as a mouse.
I'm ok with smokers paying more because that's a personal choice they make.
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