What happen to management or supervisor when a grievance is file against them?

[Integrity]

depends on the grievances

for doing work? honestly your boss will just be like wtf are you doing; you'd never get fired but it'd make you look like a constantly

for harassment? as long as you're not a psycho and it's just a butthurt hourly, just laugh about it and throw it in the trash

There is new language for Article 37 Grievances. Multiple harassment grievances against a management person requires the management person to appear at the National Article 37 Grievance Committee.

 

[Dragon]

I heard here if 3 grievances file against a supervisor, he/she be fired. Is that true?

Just 3..pfft.

 

[UPSER1987]

Throw a grievance in the trash ?

You really wish.... you had the ability to do that.

Really? Not literally but figuratively. No one in management cares if you file a grievance or not.

 

[8000Shelf]

Grievances don't look good on a sup IF they are heard by your Local and won. In that case the sup has to answer to their boss... even if he or she was the one who instructed the sup to do what was grieved. Real political BS type stuff. I've seen grievances stall a promotion or cause a demotion depending on the violation.
Hardly ever would it get a sup fired unless it was a blatant integrity issue, like covering up accidents or number fudging.

 

[Yeet]

The ground opens up underneath them and they fall into Mordor. Have to fight their way back out.

One does not simply fall into Mordor.

 

[I have been lurking]

IT TOOK 2 AND NOW NOT ONLY AM I GETTING MY MONEY OWED BUT HE'S TRANSFERRED ADIOS BILLY YOU MARICON!

Domo arigato Local 705-o.

 

[Gidget]

What good are supervisors if no one listens, they have no authority to fo anything. Because I tell ya what, I'd be ignoring the lot of you if 2 or 3 complaints got me canned.

Basically, that's like giving people a free pass. They aren't doing their job, so you have to talk with them, then they get mad because you talk with them and in turn file a complaint


If that's the case, I'd by pass the talk and just start writing everyone up. No warning, no talk, just a write up.

It's as bad as Yelp, where if poor Jonny doesn't get his way and cannot have a conversation like a real adult, he just files a complaint, because God forbid we do our job and work through issues like grown-ups

 

[burrheadd]

What good are supervisors if no one listens, they have no authority to fo anything. Because I tell ya what, I'd be ignoring the lot of you if 2 or 3 complaints got me canned.

Basically, that's like giving people a free pass. They aren't doing their job, so you have to talk with them, then they get mad because you talk with them and in turn file a complaint


If that's the case, I'd by pass the talk and just start writing everyone up. No warning, no talk, just a write up.

It's as bad as Yelp, where if poor Jonny doesn't get his way and cannot have a conversation like a real adult, he just files a complaint, because God forbid we do our job and work through issues like grown-ups

What’s goin on Gidgy how long you been a part time supe?

 

[542thruNthru]

What good are supervisors if no one listens, they have no authority to fo anything. Because I tell ya what, I'd be ignoring the lot of you if 2 or 3 complaints got me canned.

Basically, that's like giving people a free pass. They aren't doing their job, so you have to talk with them, then they get mad because you talk with them and in turn file a complaint


If that's the case, I'd by pass the talk and just start writing everyone up. No warning, no talk, just a write up.

It's as bad as Yelp, where if poor Jonny doesn't get his way and cannot have a conversation like a real adult, he just files a complaint, because God forbid we do our job and work through issues like grown-ups

 

[Shift Inhibit]

What good are supervisors if no one listens, they have no authority to fo anything. Because I tell ya what, I'd be ignoring the lot of you if 2 or 3 complaints got me canned.

Basically, that's like giving people a free pass. They aren't doing their job, so you have to talk with them, then they get mad because you talk with them and in turn file a complaint


If that's the case, I'd by pass the talk and just start writing everyone up. No warning, no talk, just a write up.

It's as bad as Yelp, where if poor Jonny doesn't get his way and cannot have a conversation like a real adult, he just files a complaint, because God forbid we do our job and work through issues like grown-ups

 

[542thruNthru]

What good are supervisors

I ask myself that question all the time.

 

[UPSER1987]

What good are supervisors if no one listens, they have no authority to fo anything. Because I tell ya what, I'd be ignoring the lot of you if 2 or 3 complaints got me canned.

Basically, that's like giving people a free pass. They aren't doing their job, so you have to talk with them, then they get mad because you talk with them and in turn file a complaint


If that's the case, I'd by pass the talk and just start writing everyone up. No warning, no talk, just a write up.

It's as bad as Yelp, where if poor Jonny doesn't get his way and cannot have a conversation like a real adult, he just files a complaint, because God forbid we do our job and work through issues like grown-ups

It’s just a generation of snowflakes…so thinned skinned and cowardice the only thing they know to do is file a grievance.

 

[PCM Troll]

It's true they go to a panel and that panel is where they discuss on how you will be terminated.

 

[MyTripisCut]

It’s just a generation of snowflakes…so thinned skinned and cowardice the only thing they know to do is file a grievance.

If only the company would tell you guys that your side agreed to the same writing in there that we are held to. I know, its a tough concept to grasp.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

If only the company would tell you guys that your side agreed to the same writing in there that we are held to. I know, its a tough concept to grasp.

Exactly!

 

[UPSER1987]

If only the company would tell you guys that your side agreed to the same writing in there that we are held to. I know, its a tough concept to grasp.

Grievance filed / warning letter issued. Same consequence- nothing. Waste of time.

 

[burrheadd]

It’s just a generation of snowflakes…so thinned skinned and cowardice the only thing they know to do is file a grievance.

And get paid

 

[Lineandinitial]

Many Grievances are stacked up against issues the union has with the company and horse-traded. Some Grievances are "Heard" because either the Member is making a huge issue and the union "leadership" doesn't want to be seen as a sell out, or it is actually an egregious occurrence that must be vetted out, or something else.

These "Panels" you refer to are what management likes to refer to as "Hearings".
The term "Panels" downplays the event and "Hearings" elevate them...

It's all a game and forever will be.

We all know that it is people working with other people (Union Leadership and Company Labor Dept), so there HAS to be some give and take if the relationship is going to actually achieve anything.

 

[quad decade guy]

Many Grievances are stacked up against issues the union has with the company and horse-traded. Some Grievances are "Heard" because either the Member is making a huge issue and the union "leadership" doesn't want to be seen as a sell out, or it is actually an egregious occurrence that must be vetted out, or something else.

These "Panels" you refer to are what management likes to refer to as "Hearings".
The term "Panels" downplays the event and "Hearings" elevate them...

It's all a game and forever will be.

We all know that it is people working with other people (Union Leadership and Company Labor Dept), so there HAS to be some give and take if the relationship is going to actually achieve anything.

There is the Panel.

Then there are local hearings.

Local first then the Panel. Never heard it any other way for 40 years.)

 

[Lineandinitial]

There is the Panel.

Then there are local hearings.

Local first then the Panel. Never heard it any other way for 40 years.)

The Airline must be different.