Where the union screwed the pooch in negotiations

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Brownslave688, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    OSHA cites UPS for "excessive heat" exposure after NBC investigation

    Working conditions is where there was sympathy to be had but leadership didn’t bother to use any leverage at all.

    I don’t get too caught up in the heat issue although I do think they could vent the cargo area better but we are gonna have a/c in the next 5-7 years because of public outcry you watch.
     
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  2. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    More drivers will have to fall over dead (and be reported) for that to happen. Or cut back on MIP to pay for it.
     
  3. MECH-lift

    MECH-lift Union Brother

    $13k? :lol: ...easier for UPS to pay the fine than to install a/c
     
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  4. Once they get the 22.5 drivers in at half pay they will be able to afford AC
     
  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    It’ll be an agreement that all new trucks will have it or something.

    But ups is on OSHA radar right now and that’s not a good place to be
     
  6. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Where do I sign?
     
  7. MECH-lift

    MECH-lift Union Brother

    Let’s hope OSHA pops in for a visit during preload with exits blocked and zero egress
     
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  8. MECH-lift

    MECH-lift Union Brother

    Tons of injuries/accidents in our district this month! Good job UPS! make us work more overtime maybe that’s the solution!
     
  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Show up December 19 lol
     
  10. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    I hope none of the "elected officials" see any of this. Lol.
     
  11. rod

    rod retired and happy

    I doubt it. UPS will argue the "air conditioning won't work in a package car thing " until the cows come home (because they are right as long as the trucks have to be shut off at each stop). The most you could hope for is MAYBE air conditioning for the high mileage routes. I agree venting could and should be improved.
     
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  12. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Seems to work ok in a tractor when shifting. ( Think about that before you respond).
     
  13. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Are you shifting trailers 200 times a day and shutting it off each time? Think about that before you respond.
     
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  14. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Not fighting with you sir. My point is that AC works good when you are in and out of the vehicle several times in a short amount of time. That's all I was saying.
     
  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    The argument doesn’t hold water for heat though.


    OSHA issue seems to be that there’s not sufficient ways for drivers to cool down once they get hot. If one could sit in a/c truck for 5-10 min and cool off some of these incidents may be avoided
     
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  16. rod

    rod retired and happy

    I though you were looking for a fight with your "think about that before you respond" comment. My wife pissed me off today so I was looking for one myself that I could possibly win for a change. Carry on.
     
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  17. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    That is where they screwed up in negotiations? Mkay.
     
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  18. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Well don't go into the current events forum. You always look like a jackass in there.

    Think about that before you respond. :)
     
  19. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Well he’s 107 sometimes he thinks women’s right to vote are current events
     
  20. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Just how "cool" would a dark brown UPS truck get. Imaging driving your car a couple minutes with the air on and then shutting it off and opening every window and door for a minute or two-- then times this by about 10 and you have the amount of "cool' that would escape a UPS truck at each stop with the front doors open and the bulkhead door open letting in 130 -140 degree heat. I just don't see it working good enough to make it worth while. I could be wrong. I do know one thing-UPS won't agree to it without a major fight. Even back in the good old days when I was running a downtown/ residential route 5 or 10 minutes between stops (like you say in your argument) was OUT OF THE QUESTION.