Where the union screwed the pooch in negotiations

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Brownslave688, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Then why aren’t they settled?Grievances going to National Panel where they will disappear tells me something different
     
  2. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Your forgot to say that UPS with then act as if it was their idea for the health and safety of the employees.
     
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  3. MyTripisCut

    MyTripisCut Dumpster, INABAG

    Good point.
    I didn’t know that. PVD seems like such a blatant violation of the contract.
     
  4. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    My predictions for next summer:
    UPS will offer the "super uniforms" to be rationed out like DR bags during peak. Anyone who has a "thermal event" is simply not following instructions in their cool solutions training. UPS is happy, OSHA disappears for a couple more years.
     
  5. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Disagree.
     
  6. Poop Head

    Poop Head Lovin' every minute of it!

    That's cuz they spend 90% of their time indoors.
     
  7. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Yep. But the more common temperature control is the more likely it becomes for us
     
  8. watdaflock?

    watdaflock? Well-Known Member

    Our union and management should start using the WetBulb Globe Temperature to determine how unsafe working conditions are during the hottest part of summer.
     
  9. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    This is an awesome idea.
     
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  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    That’s way too complicated for @upschuck
     
  11. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    You're the one who can't answer the simple question.
     
  12. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    @Indecisi0n

    Does this thing work or not
     
  13. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Glad you learned to stay your ass out of there.
    You were way in over your head.
    You can’t handle the truth!!!
     
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  14. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    When has she ever posted in current events?
     
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

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    Also it's he not she.
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  16. Two Tokes

    Two Tokes Give it to me Baby

    Forget the AC in the Cab
    UPS has got to vent the cargo area
    Lack of training on pre load makes for more time in the back looking
    Where I am, the back can get up to 140 during the summer
     
  17. Heavy Package

    Heavy Package Well-Known Member

    The contract language could have added a section on reducing workload when the temperature / heat index / etc. is above (or below) a certain point. I agree that this contract was so pathetic - even to start off on negotiations. We didn't even try to fight for better working conditions inside the hub or out on road for our members.
     
  18. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    My experience has shown me most employees justify, condone, and contribute to the poor working conditions and culture at UPS.

    IMHO
    The self centered unionism that so often pervades UPS can pretty much be summed up with the catch phrase “Show me the money”.

    Many at UPS as well as here on the BC, make working conditions a sad joke on Corporate but actually many time it is more a reflection of the weakness, cowardice and self centered ness of today’s working man.

    IMHO
    It must start with the employee. The employee must stand up for the right to work safely, by following UPS Safety Training and methods.

    If the employee is low level management, these employees must stand up for the right to have their workers follow UPS Safety Training and they must also stand up for the right of their employees to follow UPS Safety Training and methods.