Why collective bargaining?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Ron Carey lives on, Jul 2, 2014.

  1. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Of all the things, Republicans and some Democrats could attack. Why us? All we want is rights that people bled for. They take down public sector unions, who do you think is next. We get up in the morning work hard, provide a service. Are we that big of threat to millionaire's row? It is disgusting and disgraceful that politicians spend our taxes trying to bust unions. Isn't there more important issues to worry about other than working families.

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  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Why not just accept what you are offered?
  3. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Because corporate lobbyists pay them to.
  4. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Shouldn't you be out cutting a tree down or something? :)
  5. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    He's a Lumberjack and he's OK?
  6. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Its a complete contradiction. They talk about food stamps and welfare, and then they attack people who do work??

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  7. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    A great labor leader told President Truman, " if politicians go for our wallets, we go for their throats"

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  8. purplesky

    purplesky Active Member

    Yes right. The workforce at companies like FDX and Walmart and Amazon,etc. accept what they are offered and its working out so well for them.
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  9. purplesky

    purplesky Active Member

    There are many Teamsters on this forum who support the Republicans and just don't get it for some reason? Its not a left wing agenda to destroy labor. Its just not.

    When every state becomes right to work in America ITS BYE BYE UNIONS! Thats what Republicans are working hard for everyday.

    So all you young Teamsters super save for retirement because your union and pension might be gone down the road.
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  10. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Im definitely not a cheerleader for democrats. They talk a good game, they need to deliver. It might be time to " cut the chord" if Any politician makes it a top priority of their platform to attack collective bargaining. The Dems need to chill on the war on coal and accept the keystrone pipeline. The republicans well there is to many issues to mention

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  11. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    So much for that toothless threat. The politicians got our wallets and we just kiss their ass. At least start by leaving teeth marks.
  12. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    He looked more like he should be out catching gators if you ask me.
  13. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    Must have been Sr. Jr. -- doesn't have enough sack
  14. purplesky

    purplesky Active Member

    You don' t need to be a cheerleader for anybody. The FACT is that the RIGHT TO WORK MOVEMENT IS A RIGHT WING SUPPORTED MOVEMENT.

    Just drive through one of the states that is currently under attack to become RIGHT TO WORK by that states REPUBLICAN and RIGHTWING legislature and you will see many billboards pushing for right to work.
  15. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    I live in Kentucky, "right to work" is dead in the water as of now. Its a damn shame whats happening in other states. How can people be so blind

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  16. Brown Spider

    Brown Spider Active Member

    Don't know who would have said that to Truman, but it would be pretty safe to rule out Hoffa Junior. He was 11 years old when Truman left office in January of 1953.
  17. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    It wont be republicans or democrats that destroy unions. It is the ordinary people who live in the state that make the final decision.

    Are there any states left that dont have initiative and referendum laws? The final say on these right-to-work laws will be the citizens of that state and if they accept right-to-work laws or strike them down with their own votes
  18. Brown Spider

    Brown Spider Active Member

    Wish I could agree, but Wisconsin is a prime example of a newly elected Republican Governor singlehandedly destroying public sector Unions. Scott Walker took office, ordered the Republican controlled State Legislature not to approve the collective bargaining agreement previously approved by his predecessor, and essentially destroyed those unions. When he eliminated the dues check-off provision from their contracts, he turned hundreds of Union Reps, whose duties consisted of grievance processing, arbitrations, workplace meetings and general representation duties, into dues collectors. As a result, the public sector Unions in Wisconsin are now a mere shadow of what they once were.

    Yes...the Democrats are the better of the two parties...but not by much. It almost seems that the Republicans have decided to kill us, while the Democrats have decided to let us live as long as we continue to support them.
  19. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    While its true the republicans may have passed the law. The people of wisconsin still have the option of accepting the law as it is, or voting it down through initiative/referendum process.

    It all boils down to what the people of wisconsin truly want. And as much as i support unions, i support the democratic process more. Let the people of wisconsin decide if they want the right-to-work law in their state
  20. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    No initiative or referendum law is available to do what you suggest in Wisconsin. The "people" of Wisconsin are screwed by republican gerrymandered districts, giving disproportionate control to republicans.
    In 2012, 58,000 more democrats voted (for democrat candidates) than republicans yet republicans won 5 of 8 seats. It's a shameful power grab pure and simple.