Why in the world doesn’t UPS take a cue from FEDEX

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by ManInBrown, Jun 7, 2019.

  1. badpal

    badpal Active Member

    Did you not hear this week about thier soon to be toothpaste delivering drones. lol:clap:
     
  2. BlackCat

    BlackCat Active Member

    I think the retro checks are the tea leaves you are looking to read.
     
  3. BlackCat

    BlackCat Active Member

    Screw that.

    Orion would never make you that efficient.
     
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  4. Two Tokes

    Two Tokes Give it to me Baby

    I agree
    We can take back our sure post to make up the volume lost
    Amazon is a lost leader for UPS
    Amazon has no idea the problems that come from delivering to the end
     
  5. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    They aren't paying out til Q3. Ideally it won't affect profits too much if the money has been set aside.
     
  6. Two Tokes

    Two Tokes Give it to me Baby

    That is a pretty sweet route
     
  7. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    Who cares how much money we are making off them? If abney had a brain between his ears he would tell them to hit the F’n bricks. Their business would be immediately decimated without us delivering their crap. The ex con in the lasership chester the molester van isnt doing 150 stops a day. Take the temporary loss of profit from dropping them, and decimate Amazon.
     
  8. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    You should try a rural route then. I haven't run over 65 in months. Our heaviest route takes out 135 or so most days. Small center in the boondocks.
     
  9. Star B

    Star B White Lightening

    That's the issue.

    There's this extended route I run that is busy at 55 stops...300 miles.... 12hourish day. I drive thru about 6 UPS drivers areas and two centers when I'm on area. There are times where I'm wasting 30 minutes to get to one stop and then another 20 to the next.... with that kind of low-density work, there's no surprise why we couldn't make it work.
     
  10. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    That's what FredEx has to deal with when he decided to separate Express and Ground.
     
  11. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member


    From the article.....

    “Amazon’s contract with FedEx Express only affects air services, which means FedEx will continue to serve as a carrier and last-mile delivery partner.“

    and.....

    “FedEx added that Amazon was not a huge customer, only accounting for roughly 1.3% of its total revenue in 2018. FedEx stock dropped less than 1% on the news, while Amazon stock did not budge.”


     
  12. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    By truck.
     
  13. Austin.Was.My.Hero

    Austin.Was.My.Hero quod erat demonstrandum

    Is it because UPS is hiring more women drivers, millennials or Generation Z's?
     
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  14. Star B

    Star B White Lightening

    well, the article is wrong.

    we are not doing last mile anymore for them. let's put it this way, at my little station, we were ingesting about 50 skids a day of amazon. now we're ingesting 0. tell us how we're still doing 'last mile' and 'carrier' for them?
     
  15. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Amazon will continue to use Ground.
     
  16. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Until a month ago, I would have agreed. My route is now looped and loaded so that I deliver almost everything in the order it is loaded. I used to routinely deliver 4-5 sections in reverse, now I might do a half section a day and that will almost always be my last section. For 16 months, I used Orion to reduce my dispatch and it worked perfectly. There were days that 120 stops in the same area was a 9 hour day.
     
  17. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    There are other stations out there. Yours isn’t an indication of what goes on across the rest of the country. Or even your state.
     
  18. SmithBarney

    SmithBarney Well-Known Member

    The Revenue was a drop in the bucket, but the volume probably accounted for 25-50% of most semi-rural and rural routes. Remember the real revenue at express is in letters/pak(basically things less than 5lbs), they weigh almost nothing, take up almost no space and still cost a pretty penny to ship. Express was tossed into the Amazon deal to get a majority stake in Ground Volume. Unfortunately the AMZ 2day freight was affecting service across the country
     
  19. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member


    So yeah.....a drop in the bucket nationally.
     
  20. SmithBarney

    SmithBarney Well-Known Member

    Revenue vs Volume most people don't comprehend, especially since the $ earned per AMZ package just wasn't worth it,
    I'm sure FDX came at them with some new figures that they didn't like.

    Yes, but the Rural Drivers that had routes balloon nearly 150-200% are thankful.
    that being said, some rural routes have sustained volume from a variety of new shippers, so sales has been busy.