You don't HAVE to work

[rod]

Dang it, You had to remind me of Amazon. I just ordered a new $46 soldering iron station for $16.39 after all the coupons. My addiction continues.

Prime members only. Amazon is offering a $10 promotional credit with a purchase of a $40+ Amazon Mini Prime Envelope or Prime Day eGift Card with coupon code GIFTFORPD21.

Amazon has the LONOVE 60W Digital Soldering Iron Station Kit for a low $26.39 Free Shipping after Coupon Code: "ZXD6D8LY" (Exp Soon). This is originally $46.

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Let me guess--the shipping date on it has been moved to Sept.30 because of Covid.

 

[Analbumcover]

No, I actually like my family and I want to keep them. I said goodbye to my kids on Sunday night, and hello to them on Saturday morning.

No grown man should be gone that much. The job exists to improve your life, not to take your life.

My shop steward gave me death glares today because I made the wish list and went home. 2 weeks of 8:45 nights and two 9.5 grievances later, I think I earned a little time with my kid.

 

[JL 0513]

Literally everything you said is wrong

Which means you don't know what capitalism is or you think the government makes everything. Please explain.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

Which means you don't know what capitalism is or you think the government makes everything. Please explain.

Literally everything you have said in this thread is wrong

 

[Steamer]

Let me guess--the shipping date on it has been moved to Sept.30 because of Covid.

It came in two days.

 

[Steamer]

What are you gonna do with that?

Let it collect dust until I need it.

 

[Brownslave688]

I closed out 1 of my 4 trading accounts this week to pay off the rest of my mortgage. I'm preparing for retirement with a gaggle of kids and still being under 40. I just need a few more good hits, and I have 8 mouths to feed and still have enough to never work again. Don't hate.

That’s a pretty dumb move with interest rates so low.

 

[JL 0513]

Literally everything you have said in this thread is wrong

OK, that explains it. Thanks.

 

[wilberforce15]

That’s a pretty dumb move with interest rates so low.

It would be dumb if I'm a normal investor. I've gone 6x since January for a reason. having the mortgage paid off enables me to continue to take excess risk, and generate excess return.

Paying the mortgage off will increase my investment returns.

 

[BeefiestMass]

Then no one you listen to knows what capitalism is.

There are a ton of different kinds of coops. Coops aren't capitalist or socialist. Although you could say that worker coops specifically are kind of a foretaste of socialism within capitalism. But that's the most you could say, and most coops are not workers coops.

Govt invented internet. they also invented computer tech in part. ur welcome

Literally every important invention in the last 75 years has come from the govt itself or a govt-protected monopoly

 

[zubenelgenubi]

There are a ton of different kinds of coops. Coops aren't capitalist or socialist. Although you could say that worker coops specifically are kind of a foretaste of socialism within capitalism. But that's the most you could say, and most coops are not workers coops.

Literally every important invention in the last 75 years has come from the govt itself or a govt-protected monopoly

Please explain what it is about any particular type of co-op that makes it not capitalist.

 

[G.V. Rush]

Don't let them ruin it for you.

Ignore the temp employees (management). Go out and enjoy your customers. It is all a mindset. I am smiling everyday.

Amazon just reduces the average box weight.

Great job except in December... with the 9.5 protection.

9.5 protection. Ha!! That’s funny. 13 hour days for the past month. This place sucks

 

[BeefiestMass]

Please explain what it is about any particular type of co-op that makes it not capitalist.

Both you and rickyb have a lot to learn about coops. Go talk to someone at the ag extension.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Both you and rickyb have a lot to learn about coops. Go talk to someone at the ag extension.

You made the claim. I am asking you. Until then, I say co-ops, especially the ones in Italy, that he loves to refer to, are capitalistic. Someone is investing capital in order to add value to resources, thus creating wealth. That, in a nut shell, is capitalism. The co-ops you refer to are bands of small capitalists getting together in order to compete on larger scales with larger companies running a more corporate structure. Still capitalist.

 

[BeefiestMass]

You made the claim. I am asking you. Until then, I say co-ops, especially the ones in Italy, that he loves to refer to, are capitalistic. Someone is investing capital in order to add value to resources, thus creating wealth. That, in a nut shell, is capitalism. The co-ops you refer to are bands of small capitalists getting together in order to compete on larger scales with larger companies running a more corporate structure. Still capitalist.

Coops, even worker coops, in capitalist countries are definitely capitalistic, I agree. The defining capitalist relationship between labor and capital is not there, and so workers kind of become their own capitalists, but with stark and universal differences in explicit goals and organization than any other type of firm. Do the workers control the means of production? Yes, so socialist. Is profit the purpose of the firm? No, so socialist. Is profit desirable for a coop? Yes, so capitalist. Are they privately controlled? Yes, so capitalist.
I don't think it's really one or the other, more like a third way, and they exist in both capitalist and socialist economies.

 

[squanchito]

I've never seen so many people act as though they are being forced to work

damn capitalism really makes a mf think like this...

edit: just read the rest of the thread. read Proudhon and Kevin Carson

 

[Gabba]

for some people complaining is their hobby

 

[zubenelgenubi]

for some people complaining is their hobby

For everyone else it's a way of life.