3 done 3 to go
In control of own destiny
I started as a casual driver in the 80's. Took 10 yrs for full time. They don't lose like a casual ever. Improve them selves if they want to make a living at ups. Otherwise leave
Bring on the concessions!!
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We heard it here first...when @UpstateNYUPSer said it 5 years ago .
anHOURover
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he predicted it for last contract negotiations ..... i predict it next friendly sit down with the boss UPS
By The Book
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Maybe the dialogue would be different if the part timers voted more than the drivers. The fact that the part timers don't vote is in no way the drivers fault. They need to accept the outcome of their inaction.No, that's total.
The Union negotiators rely on the locals to feed them needs and demands.
The Union local rely on the local members to feed them needs and demands.
The meeting attendees, aka drivers, are the ones that feed these needs and demands to their local.
By The Book
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So, you agree with my post then?, because yours sounds like the Union is to blame for part timers not voting.
Faceplanted
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I believe that the union side of at the bargaining table need to do the right thing
How has part time pay went from more than double minimum wage to minimum wage.
This has to do with the people actually doing the negotiating in my opinion.
I'm so tired of the part timers don't vote excuse. Most at my hub don't stay for more than a few months and they honestly don't even have a clue how the union works so let's stop blaming them.
Part timers voted when they made a decent living wage and stayed at ups for years, now they get paid minimum wage and leave in months. This is directly related and the union has no problems because they can get us full time voters more at contract time hanks to stealing from part timers. It's discussing and like I said this is known by management and th teamsters higher ups.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Just out of curiosity, what percentage of our jobs is part time? My local voted 19% turnout (embarrassing). Can't be all part timers to blame.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Serious question how much more money goes towards pension and healthcare for those part timers now?
Faceplanted
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When the part timers actually vote for exactly who is on the contract negotiation committee we can blame them. Until then it's all irrelevant.
But guess what..... that's not how it works and our union guys don't look out for all brothers, only full time brother when it comes time to talk part time pay and benefits.
But guess what..... that's not how it works and our union guys don't look out for all brothers, only full time brother when it comes time to talk part time pay and benefits.
Faceplanted
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Since it's a revolving door and most don't even make it to thei 1 year I would assume ups is making out very very well
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
But that's the employees fault.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Visious cycle. If they made better pay they could stay longer, get active, and vote.
Faceplanted
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This is exactly what it all boils down to. EXACTLY
You don't think ups and the teamsters are happy with the current pt situation? because I guarentee you it benefits both sides drastically.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
All I'm saying is it isn't ups fault or the union fault that these kids can't see the value of their TRUE compensation.
Do I think they deserve a few bucks more yes but let's not act like they are grossly under compensated.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
The bigger problem I have is PT progression. The raises are actually LESS than if they just got the general wage increases.
The point is to reward someone for sticking around. Not punish them.
The point is to reward someone for sticking around. Not punish them.
How about getting full time?
Faceplanted
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it personally took me 8 years to get full time, most of those spent in school, slinging weed, or getting up shaving and waiting by the phone every morning to see if they needed me to come in and cover.
If I could do it all over again I would not have done it
