MAKAVELI
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He'll probably still make more $ than the average Ground driver.
Ground Driver, Am I Being Underpaid?
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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He'll probably still make more $ than the average Ground driver.
He would have to find a smaller apartment, hopefully one with a wall big enough to be able to hang all of his diplomas.
MAKAVELI
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Maybe he could qualify for food stamps and sec.8 housing like ground drivers.
MrFedEx
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Now I see why you are loathed by your UPS brethren. God, what an irritant. You said your Business Degree gave you credibility to comment on the business principles of FedEx Ground. I asked if my higher degree gave me more credibility. You got your little feelings hurt and are now sulking in the corner because of it.
Maybe you and moreluck can form a team or something. You've got more in common than you think.
MrFedEx
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He, Sammy, and the rest of them all ignore this and claim it's "today's business climate" or some other horseshat excuse for the way Ground drivers get treated. My personal favorite is the salary plan, where they get flat-rated the $650 and then get worked 60 hours per week.
Lots of excuses and rationalizations for a huge scam that has FedEx employees pretending they aren't FedEx employees. All legal, of course, because now they have to have more than just one driver to exploit.
Having in part of it makes one not only a servant to Smith, but a lowlife and apologist. Sammy and IWBF need to join the Republican Party so they can spread the gospel of abuse. Upstate is already there.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Upstate is more of a liberal than you may think.
You finally said it. "All legal." Stop right there. Until that changes, you really have only personal opinions that we all know. You don't like the Ground model.
It will be fine
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Why stop when he can rant on and on without any actual knowledge? He did a detailed study of the policies of every ground contractor and knows everything. That or he talked to a driver one time. Either way MFE knows all and any who disagree are kool-aid drinking shill tools of the devil incarnate Fred S.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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It will be fine
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MrFedEx
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You forget FedEx history. The IBT made a tepid attempt to organize Express in 1996-97. When Smith got his Express Carrier Exemption tacked onto the FAA Reauthorization Act, the Teamsters ran away...before the movement even got rolling.
They did it again when there was chatter about amending the RLA to make it easier for workers to organize. Smith pulled a lot of strings, including threatening to kill a big Boeing contract if any changes were made.
He got his way, and the IBT ran away again. Now, they don't even take phone calls or answer emails from Express employees...only Freight. The reason? One is RLA, and the other is NLRA.
A huge difference. What don't you understand, Scammy?
You miss the obvious. Until enough of your coworkers hate Fred and the company with fury such as yours, Fred will continue to have his way with you.
MrFedEx
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No, you miss the obvious. The RLA is very tough to beat. Even attempting to amend it had Fred pulling out all of the political stops to kill it...which he did. Just ask the Senators from Boeing.
Then Fedex is getting what they want. Drivers who stay for a decade or so and move on. The career courier position is a thing of the past and interest in making the position a career one will soon die off.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The same is happening to a lesser extent on the Brown side.
Look for it to gain speed on the Brown side.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I look around at the younger guys and know that most if not all will not make this their career.
Until most realize as they mature this is the best thing going for them. Funny how obligations to their family does that.
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