Now we can't sheet pickups !!!!

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by HEFFERNAN, Feb 3, 2012.

  1. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    This morning's PCM started like the normal BS we hear until we got some new news. If your pickup has an end of day, only sheet the end of day. If there is no end of day, you only type in how many you picked up and don't sheet a package. If you're picking up an on-call air, you don't sheet the package and just type how many you took.

    This doesn't make sense on any level !!!! For as long as we had diads, we sheeted packages to keep track of their progress. Apparently, the geeks in Atlanta feel that just dumping all the pieces off our trucks onto the belt is good enough. There is basically no proof that a package was picked up by us now, outside the end of day. Can anyone make sense of this stupidity in a technical way ? Every month, there's a new rule that comes out that makes every veteran driver just more confused !!!!!
     
  2. SignificantOwner

    SignificantOwner A Package Center Manager

    Ask to see the 360 methods for recording pickup stops & pkgs. They are the standard methods that should be followed everywhere and they've been in place for quite some time.
     
  3. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    I have never scanned pickup pieces. I was unaware that anybody did. I just scan the end of day, the pieces themselves get scanned at the hub at night when they are processed.
     
  4. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    We were told not to scan pickup pkgs almost 10 years ago.
    If that's what you mean.
    I only scan on calls for phones and laptops because I want the customer to see it's progress,but,get real,those days when you pick up 500 pkgs ,it's unrealistic to scan them all.
     
  5. bumped

    bumped Well-Known Member

    We were told to sheet the on calls/ARS/ letter box packages but nothing else. Thats been like 3 years now.
     
  6. yeldarb

    yeldarb Member

    weird. I have always sheeted packages without an end of day. UPS store drop offs, oca's etc.
     
  7. satellitedriver

    satellitedriver Moderator Staff Member

    Heff,
    The only pickup pkg's I have ever scanned are NXDA, ARS, RS, and OCA,
    this is how I was instructed.
    If,"the man" tells me not to do it, I won't.
    The new technology beats the hell out of the "old school" paper days of picking up NXDA.
    Delivering NXDA was even a greater pain.
    Sig for every package, pull the paper tag, sign forms, fill out a paper time card..ect.......
    For the most part, the info is already in the system, before we ever pickup any pkg.
    I am not paid to worry about how UPS makes a profit.
    I am only paid to drop off and pickup.
    That's why we love Logistics.
    :onitswaysmiley:
     
  8. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    If there is an end of day, there is no need to scan the actual package. The tracking numbers were recorded during the process of creating the end of day. If there is no end of day, it should be scanned; but-it is their game, their rules. Sat is correct, as usual, about 'the man'. It's there ball game, we are just paid for the sweat on our brow.
     
  9. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    I know not to scan packages that have an end of day, but they are NOW telling us not to scan packages with a shipping document. I have some pickups that still write out NDA letters.
    I already mentioned not scanning on call airs but they are telling us not to scan packages in our letter boxes ! The only packages they want us scanning are the ones in Special Counts. These 3 scenarios aren't making sense to me since I am accountable for these packages, at least I thought I was for 12 years now.
     
  10. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    If we are going to be held accountable, they are going to be scanned as far as I am concerned. If they say we arent, fine.
     
  11. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Heff,
    I had a need to review the Scan Pickup packages procedures back in 2007 and the methods at that time was to only scan:
    Drop box packages
    Walk-ups (someone hands you a package(s) with UPS compliant Smart labels)

    The Origin Scan the packages receive once unloaded kicks off all UPS tracking and Billing processes.
     
  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I don't understand this...you can only be held accountable if you do scan the packages.
     
  13. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Does it really matter? If they say not to do it then don't.
     
  14. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager


    Nothings changed in my center, same methods. Sounds like someone has taken it a step to far and read into the pickup method. Not you Hef.
     
  15. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    I scan Internationals, ARS, RS OCA, everything in a letter box and any package that the label has a package with a bow on it in the bottom corner no matter where you pick it up.
     
  16. faded jeans

    faded jeans just a member

    Remember when service providers (archaic term) used to give a sheet?

    Reduce your stress / Work as Directed and cash the check!
     
  17. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Logisticly this idea is genious and will be a real game changer for ups. It's got to be right up there with the introduction of next day air.
     
  18. dilligaf

    dilligaf IN VINO VERITAS

    ​This is not necessarily true. We have several P/U accts that get pre-hits. UPS store is one of them. I am not going to scan just the EOD when someone else has done a pre-hit. There are several factors in this. The most important being HI VALS. If I scan the EOD that has a hi val, I want verification of who actually picked up that hi val. If I get it, then I will sign off on it. If I don't get it then I'm not signing off on it. I will not take responsibility for something that I did NOT pick up.

    The other thing is pcs count. I want an accurate accounting of the pcs picked up. If I am the only one scanning a pick up, then I will use only the EOD. If it was pre-hit, I scan every pc.
     
  19. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    If I get to a P/U account that another driver has pre-hit, I simply "guesstimate" how many pieces are left. Scanning each piece takes too much time, particularly if there are smalls that the customer has put in totes or smalls bags. If the "count" winds up being off by a bit, so be it.
     
  20. dcdriver

    dcdriver nations capital

    Same here.