Should The Next Contract Address "Scabs?"

[Catatonic]

The funniest post in this whole thread was Photog's when he posted that "he actually supported Unions"-----that one had me in tears.

I support the right for workers to form Unions so they can bargain collectively with employers.
I think that is a "fair" concept.
I may not support Unions when they and/or their members break the law or bully others to march in step with a mantra put out by some members or the Union management.
I don't support employers who do the same thing either.
I believe in the freedom of the individual and individual responsibility.

 

[MC4YOU2]

Me either.

So, you really don't understand that UPS mgmt profits from low pt wage as much as drivers? Or you just disagree. It's a 2 way street.

 

[Catatonic]

So, you really don't understand that UPS mgmt profits from low pt wage as much as drivers?

That I understand and totally agree with.
Thanks for clearly stating your question.

By UPS mgmt, I assume you mean Full-time UPS management.
P/T UPS management profits little or not at all from low pt wages and probably suffers along the Union P/T employees who have been oppressed by UPS, Teamsters and UPS Full-time drivers over the last 40 years of contracts.

 

[wide load]

Scabs should always be handled by the members. Period!

 

[MC4YOU2]

http://labornotes.org/blogs/2015/03/viewpoint-smart-strategy-defeat-right-work

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Scabs should always be handled by the members. Period!

How would you know who is RTW and who is Union?

 

[wide load]

You can tell by the way they walk after they punch in.

 

[PT Car Washer]

How would you know who is RTW and who is Union?

The Union can compare the employee list to the Union list and publicize it.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The Union can compare the employee list to the Union list and publicize it.

The Union would be remiss if they provided the membership with that information.

 

[MC4YOU2]

How would you know who is RTW and who is Union?

While it's not normally difficult to figure that out, that's not what they are saying here. They are saying that a movement for worker's rights in so called "at will states" could be a catalyst for strengthening the Union position overall and possibly the doom of RTW.

 

[By The Book]

You can tell by the way they walk after they punch in.

You mean like light in the loafers?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Scabs should always be handled by the members. Period!

How would you know who is RTW and who is Union?

While it's not normally difficult to figure that out, that's not what they are saying here. They are saying that a movement for worker's rights in so called "at will states" could be a catalyst for strengthening the Union position overall and possibly the doom of RTW.

Context is your friend.

 

[Brown echo]

Freeloading sell for the big business politicians , i won't doubt that alot of people will vote for this brain washer as usual and here is your potential candidate for the republican presidential nomination 2016. just saying.....

 

[Catatonic]

You can tell by the way they walk after they punch in.

You mean the RTW don't shuffle?

 

[rod]

You mean the RTW don't shuffle?

Maybe they could head to a cubical and put their feet up on a desk?

 

[Catatonic]

Maybe they could head to a cubical and put their feet up on a desk?

That's the management 2-step!

 

[iruhnman630]

So you are saying? You should receive the same healthcare, paid vacations, holidays and pay increases as union members? And expect the union to represent you, if you get in trouble?

The first part is between the employee and employer.

The second part, hell no should unions be rquired to defend non union emplyers.

 

[rod]

On the same day (Monday) I read two different articles. One (on MSN.com) was about how Wisconsin's average wages are dropping the fastest of any state in the Union now that they have voted in Right to Work legislation. The second one (in USA Today) talked about a survey taken by the Gallup Poll where 71% said they would vote for not joining a Union if given the chance-21% said they would and 7% were undecided. Unions are toast----I hope you 71% wake up before its too late.

 

[Catatonic]

Interesting possibilities here!

If the Union decided to not represent the non-Union-joiners the same as the Union-joiners, the non-Union-joiners could negotiate their own contract with UPS and get $40 an hour but no benefits.
I wonder how many short-sighted non-Union-joiner drivers would take that offer?

Sometimes, I don't know if you are serious....

Or, it's completely tongue-in-cheek.

Ah, the benefits of retirement.

-Bug-

I will cherish this compliment until I die.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

How can someone get a good union job, and then opt out and live with themselves. I put them in the same class as welfare cheats

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