Just mention it to them, on your way to write the grievance. No threats or big talk. Just mention it and do what you gotta do. But don't be one of these thousands of guys we work with, who threaten to do this and that - and don't do squat!! Then you look like a spineless blowhard to management. Just mention it, and do it. After a few, "mention and file grievance " episodes. They'll listen a lot better when you mention stuff in the future.Hub cut precharge/wrapup for hourlies which means sups are now doing those jobs, should I file a grievance or talk with someone first?
Article 3 violation.Hub cut precharge/wrapup for hourlies which means sups are now doing those jobs, should I file a grievance or talk with someone first?
Your post is confusing. Please be clear.the first step of a grievance is verbal.Why in the hell would you mention it , you don't have to . File the grievance or don't . What are you people smoking ?
The first step of progressive discipline is a verbal warningYour post is confusing. Please be clear.the first step of a grievance is verbal.
The first step of progressive discipline is a verbal warning
Good points!Correct, sort of. A verbal warning "is" the first step of progressive discipline but the first step of progressive discipline is "not" necessarily a verbal warning.
Contractually, the only thing UPS has to issue a verbal warning for first is attendance. Any other infraction can go straight to a warning letter, or discharge if a cardinal sin.
I don't think that's correct, unless something has changed. It's sounds like your skipping the "he said/I said. I also know that in the last couple of years, management has started to skip the He said/I said and have gone straight to the warning letter. In the interest of reality, Management can do whatever they want. The question is, will it hold if it's taken to the worse case scenario. Odds are it will not stand. UPS can fire you for looking ugly if they wish, but it will not stand at arbitration. TANGENT ALERT!!Correct, sort of. A verbal warning "is" the first step of progressive discipline but the first step of progressive discipline is "not" necessarily a verbal warning.
Contractually, the only thing UPS has to issue a verbal warning for first is attendance. Any other infraction can go straight to a warning letter, or discharge if a cardinal sin.
Contractually, the only thing UPS has to issue a verbal warning for first is attendance. Any other infraction can go straight to a warning letter, or discharge if a cardinal sin.
It's "past" not "pass"I have never read it. But I'm guessing you are also aware of "pass practice". That has undoubtedly been pass practice for at least 30 years. Which more than validates it. It may very well be written in some form. Either way, it has been pass practice.
LOL Yes it is! You be right. Keep in mind, that was around 8:00 in da morning. I'm retired! I don't wake up, till 10:00!It's "past" not "pass"
Hope that helps
Glad I don't have to worry about this one. Sadly, @IVE's face and backside are hard to distinguish from one another. I'll start a fund immediately. HAUPS can fire you for looking ugly if they wish, but it will not stand at arbitration.
Help me out.
What contactual language says that ??
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