I actually tend to think he should. Being from a high cost of living area myself, I can definitely agree that a driver in say NYC should be given more than a driver somewhere in the middle of nowhere Alabama, where housing is affordable. Where I am, prices for homes start in the 300K's. Someone living where the avg. home price is 100K and avg. income is 28K is living like a king with this job, IMHO.
Alright, let's try this from a different perspective. Can you guys at least see how someone making $70K and living in an area where they can buy a good home for $100K, vs someone making 70K a year and living in an area where a comparable home costs $300K. The one living in the cheaper area would have a much better standard of living given their income.
I think it's the same for a lot of professions. Police officers, firefighters, etc. should all be paid an amount that enables them to live where they work. Also, in the Boston area, even going 50-60 miles away from the city, house prices still start in the 3's
Ryan,
Going back to the lobster example; Are you forced to live where you do? Do you NEED to live in that region? Is it our fault that we live in the armpit of the nation where the cost of living is more reasonable than where you are at. Like you pointed out in a previous post about needs and wants; it's all about what you need and what you think you want. I'm not trying to be a horse's ass, but if you can't keep up with the times, then it's time to change.
Steve
A bit of an exaggeration. 60 miles NW of Boston you're well into NH and it's 1/2 to 1/4 the price of metro Boston with loads of land.
No argument intended, and I kind of see and agree with your point; It just seems like a fine line where someone deserves more because of where they live, and someone agrees to less because of where they live.
Sorry Ryan- I'll shut my piehole.
Alright, let's try this from a different perspective. Can you guys at least see how someone making $70K and living in an area where they can buy a good home for $100K, vs someone making 70K a year and living in an area where a comparable home costs $300K. The one living in the cheaper area would have a much better standard of living given their income.
I think it's the same for a lot of professions. Police officers, firefighters, etc. should all be paid an amount that enables them to live where they work. Also, in the Boston area, even going 50-60 miles away from the city, house prices still start in the 3's
I really don't understand what the argument is over here. All I said was that I agree that employees in higher cost of living areas should be compensated fairly in that area. In a reasonable area a UPS driver's income allows for more. And you should know that unless you want to quit and try to get rehired, UPS does not allow transfers...so yes, I am required to live in the area I do.
A bit of an exaggeration. 60 miles NW of Boston you're well into NH and it's 1/2 to 1/4 the price of metro Boston with loads of land.
Not every local has the same needs/wants as every other local. With supplements and riders, local 123 in freezeyournutsoff Alaska might be able to get better heaters in their package cars in exchange for 40 paid hours in an option week instead of 50.I don't think anyone is arguing with your statement at all. Its truthful and factual. BUT We are in the trucking business. This is a union job where pay rate is based on a signed contract for all. A guy moving a box in Hawaii should not get paid more than one in St Louis. I can't comment on other countries because of different national laws.
I'm sure a gas station attendant in Boston makes more an hour than one in French Lick, Indiana. I'm sure a police officer from NYC makes more an hour than one in Fort Kent, Maine. You have to move the pay scale to fit the environment to attract employees.
Trust me, I'd be mad if someone was making more than me just because they deliver in the big city or their mortgage is 200K more than myself. It doesn't end there though. All these different supplements from different unions pisses me off. Its so garbage that they want more than everyone else. I don't know the specifics of their demands but why strike when the rest of the unions signed the master contract. Are we weak?
(WHOOOOPS......went off topic a little)