BigUnionGuy
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I know I sound like a broken record.
I would be really surprised if the elected delegates at the convention would
approve that. It would be a disaster if that happened.
22.4 Lay-off—Need some understanding
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I know I sound like a broken record.
I would be really surprised if the elected delegates at the convention would
approve that. It would be a disaster if that happened.
Over70irregs
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In your opinion how so?
Overpaid Union Thug
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It’s crap. It shouldn’t matter if only 5 people voted or 50,000. If the majority vote no then NO should stand. Those of us that took the time to vote (only a couple of minutes with today’s technology) should matter. Not the ones who were too lazy to vote.
BigUnionGuy
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If that door was opened, contract votes would be subject to "mob rule".
A vocal minority.... should not have that power.
How do we get more people to vote? You can't possibly make it any easier.
Over70irregs
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This may be off a bit but it feels kinda like the electoral votes vs the popular vote? (This statement is not a new political thread. Lord no.....)
BigUnionGuy
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If I had the answer to that question.... I'd be running the IBT.
That's what is so frustrating.
It just blows my mind away. Who doesn't have a smart phone or a regular phone?If I had the answer to that question.... I'd be running the IBT.
That's what is so frustrating.
It only takes about 30 seconds to vote
Over70irregs
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Would it be illegal for every barn to have a shop steward with a list of Drivers and Pt and ask them one by one if they did?
BigUnionGuy
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That's some "out of the box" thinking.... but, yes.
That's why even paper ballots for Local election's are completely anonymous.
Overpaid Union Thug
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It would still be majority rules if voter turnout was high. Defaulting to a YES vote if a threshold isn't met is voter suppression. Those voters that ACTUALLY voted anyway.
If the majority of members stay home (or can’t find 30 seconds to vote on their smart devices) then they shouldn’t count. But as it stands....you can decide a contract vote by not voting at all. That doesn’t make sense no matter how it’s explained.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Let’s get a bylaw put into the contract that you don’t get your paycheck til a ballot comes back.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
And not just for contract votes but local and national elections as well.
But everyone was worrying about where is my retro check, I wonder how many of them didn't even bother to vote?
Rick Ross
I'm into distribution!!
I agree that that the percentage rule sucks but am I the only one pissed that our union brought this crap back to us?
BUG loves to bring up voter turnout but I have yet to see him be critical to anything our union officials have done. Yes, our members suck for not voting but our leadership is an absolute joke for even letting us vote on this contract.
The fact that they not only approved of the 22.4 classification, but actually introduced it is almost unbelievable to me.
BUG loves to bring up voter turnout but I have yet to see him be critical to anything our union officials have done. Yes, our members suck for not voting but our leadership is an absolute joke for even letting us vote on this contract.
The fact that they not only approved of the 22.4 classification, but actually introduced it is almost unbelievable to me.
BigUnionGuy
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That's pretty damn funny.
I like it.
Never gonna happen.... but I like it.
ManInBrown
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As far as #2 here it wouldn’t matter that you have center seniority. Regarding layoffs the whole district is lumped together. Someone from another building that has more seniority has the right to work before you.
22.4 was going to happen eventually one way or another. The union wanted a t so it would help some of the underfunded pension plans out. I have mixed feelings about the 22.4 jobs. On one hand I'm happy for new full time jobs on the other hand I don't care for the language.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
And I know it’s outlandish, but we need to do something to get people involved.
The union needs to reach out to the part timers. Probably most drivers know who their BA but I seriously doubt most of the part timers do
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