Cowboy Mac
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He needs to follow his own advice.
A possible MLK Holiday Solution?
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Could be correct idk . I know Buffalo still has a holiday . Syracuse we work
JustDeliverIt
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Yes, the trade off was made in 2018.
JustDeliverIt
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We’ve worked every year as well, that hasn’t changed.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I was asking a former coworker (@What'dyabringmetoday???) who is a member of this forum if Local 687 (Plattsburgh) had also made the trade off.
Figured that . But buffalo gets 8 hour holiday pay right ? I do like having the 5th personal day
I just want to thank everyone who has posted to this thread so far...Some of the posts have challenged me, and, I believe, led me to clearer thinking, but I am more convinced now than ever, that IF IT COMES DOWN TO A CHOICE IS BETWEEN a company wide MLK Day holiday or another discretionary day, having the extra discretionary day is the better choice for everyone - workers and company both.
When I have asked for Good Friday off, it has been to go to Good Friday church services which are unique to that day and not something that can be substituted with some other day like making a deal with my supervisor that I will work this coming Friday and reschedule a day off where I am at home with the plumber dealing with that slow draining sink next Tuesday instead.
For someone who says he wants MLK Day off, I ask the question: Will it ultimately be a day catch up on errands and laundry and just have some extra time to relax, or is it to actually do something really special with other people to honor the life of MLK? I figure now, even more than when I started this thread, that the number of UPSers wanting to do something really special for MLK Day is sufficiently small, that all those people could be accomodated with the extra discretionary day. Maybe UPS would be short staffed, but, it would be a manageable situation, just like the days leading up to Valentine's day or Mothers' Day where there is some spike in volume and people who come in work some extra hours.
The benefit to the company would be not having the operation paused and the benefit to workers would be more flexibility. Furthermore, I think most people would agree that it is possible to honor someone when one is going about one's day, even if one is not taking the day off. For example, I figure if one is not actually doing something really special on the holiday, one can honor MLK (or veterans) in one's thoughts as one drives a brown truck as easily as when one is catching up on errands or chores around the house on that holiday...and save the day off for something like going to one's daughter's big track meet...
When I have asked for Good Friday off, it has been to go to Good Friday church services which are unique to that day and not something that can be substituted with some other day like making a deal with my supervisor that I will work this coming Friday and reschedule a day off where I am at home with the plumber dealing with that slow draining sink next Tuesday instead.
For someone who says he wants MLK Day off, I ask the question: Will it ultimately be a day catch up on errands and laundry and just have some extra time to relax, or is it to actually do something really special with other people to honor the life of MLK? I figure now, even more than when I started this thread, that the number of UPSers wanting to do something really special for MLK Day is sufficiently small, that all those people could be accomodated with the extra discretionary day. Maybe UPS would be short staffed, but, it would be a manageable situation, just like the days leading up to Valentine's day or Mothers' Day where there is some spike in volume and people who come in work some extra hours.
The benefit to the company would be not having the operation paused and the benefit to workers would be more flexibility. Furthermore, I think most people would agree that it is possible to honor someone when one is going about one's day, even if one is not taking the day off. For example, I figure if one is not actually doing something really special on the holiday, one can honor MLK (or veterans) in one's thoughts as one drives a brown truck as easily as when one is catching up on errands or chores around the house on that holiday...and save the day off for something like going to one's daughter's big track meet...
34yearpackagehumper
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I think excessive overtime will always be around. It was there when I started in the late 70's and it was still there when I left 30 plus years later. UPS would rather pay 2 people to do the work of 3 people
The cost of benefits of escalated a lot over the years especially healthcare
Even though they don't want to pay the overtime it's a lot cheaper than putting another route in
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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My former center focused on trying to keep everyone under 9.5.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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Tell us the story about you getting guaranteed hours in your check every week. Lol.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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There were weeks that I would have both OT and guarantee pay.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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No need to explain. Pretty sure everyone knows you cut corners and raced around all day to help your management friends. Which is fine. Helped you get into the Circle...
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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That explains the asterisk on my pension check.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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You are certainly lucky that everyone is not like you or you would not have a pension.
JustDeliverIt
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Yeah, we get 8 hrs holiday pay and double time for working the holiday.
You actually get “double time” or ppl just call it double cuz your paid 8 and work 8 ?
JustDeliverIt
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That was the arbitration win from years ago, we get double time for working any holiday. That is why we felt if we gave up Black Friday that it was worth 2 days, not 1. Company wouldn’t go for it so after we voted down the supplemental they carved out us keeping it as a holiday and every other local got a day.
Any holiday we work is double time first 8 hours, triple time after that plus 8 hours holiday pay.
